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On 8/6/2024 3:19 AM, Mikko wrote:
> On 2024-08-04 12:04:23 +0000, olcott said:
> 
>> On 8/4/2024 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2024-08-03 13:44:25 +0000, olcott said:
>>>
>>>> On 8/3/2024 4:50 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-08-02 12:19:31 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/2/2024 1:43 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-07-31 14:46:17 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/31/2024 3:03 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-07-30 13:40:55 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/30/2024 2:33 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-07-29 00:44:41 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The truth about every expression of language that can be known
>>>>>>>>>>>> to be true on the basis of its meaning expressed in language is
>>>>>>>>>>>> that a lack of connection simply means untrue.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Does that really mean something? If the significance of the 
>>>>>>>>>>> lack of
>>>>>>>>>>> connection is restricted to sentences where the connection 
>>>>>>>>>>> exists
>>>>>>>>>>> then it seems that you are talking about nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/Entries/analytic-synthetic/
>>>>>>>>>> I had to redefine the analytic side of the analytic/synthetic
>>>>>>>>>> distinction because Quine convinced most everyone that this
>>>>>>>>>> distinction does not exist.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You cannot redefine side wihout redefining the other side and the
>>>>>>>>> distinction itself. Is your redefinition equivalent to the one
>>>>>>>>> at https://plato.stanford.edu/Entries/analytic-synthetic/ or did
>>>>>>>>> you find out that that distincition is not the one that exists?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Quine got totally confused by synonymity. He never understood
>>>>>>>> that the term {Bachelor} was defined in terms of
>>>>>>>> (~Married + Adult + Male).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is not a good idea to lie about other people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When reqding Quine, you should ask yourself why your presentation
>>>>>>> is much less convincing than Quine's.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try and show the details of how I am incorrect.
>>>>>
>>>>> What you said (quoted above) about Quine is insulting and unjustified,
>>>>> which alone is wrong.
>>>>
>>>> The bottom line here is that every objection that he could
>>>> have possibly made is addressed by this augmentation to
>>>> the definition of {analytic truth}
>>>>
>>>> *Original definition* of {Analytic truth}
>>>> Every expression of (formal or natural language) that is
>>>> true on the basis of its meaning...
>>>
>>> So what is wrong with Quines opinion that the truth of "A bachelor
>>> is not married" comes from the meaning of the words?
>>>
>>
>> If he said that then he would be saying that he has no
>> objection to the {Analytic/Synthetic} distinction. He is
>> famous for having an objection to this.
> 
> What makes you thing he has no objection not involving batchelors to
> the analytinc/synthetic distinction?
> 

I only skimmed his paper. I don't have to even look at anything
that said besides his conclusion to know that it is wrong.

It is a tautology to say that expressions of language that
are true or false on the basis of their meaning are established
as true of false by a contiguous sequence of truth preserving
operations as truth-makers between (x or ~x) and the expressions
of language that make (x or ~x) true.

When anyone disagrees with the gist of this they are necessarily
incorrect.



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