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Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips,rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Pearls Before Swine: Rat The Luddite Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 09:05:38 +1200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <v8u372$1rk4t$1@dont-email.me> References: <v8s4e1$1bfga$2@dont-email.me> <nr24bjdet72ak69sfl5063e5adslm32o4u@4ax.com> <h4h4bjhl38jiaglplpggml4nhtt89odnpp@4ax.com> <slrnvb4nj4.tcg.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2024 23:05:39 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a529bbe36ea84ce1023c3fd7ab5d7559"; logging-data="1953949"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/v9pKbL2sui0Y2DUQFo7IInsy0d/pIveQ=" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:J5ZEvs6HG1DpaMvP0gw5aegPOVU= On 2024-08-06 17:33:24 +0000, Christian Weisgerber said: > On 2024-08-06, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote: > >> However, LEDs have the advantage over LCDs of being disposable in the >> landfill (ie, put in the trash as opposed to having to be dropped off >> at special locations) when they stop working. Well, if that /is/ an >> advantage, of course. And both have the advantage over incandescents >> that they work a lot longer. > > LED lights are electronics and are collected along with other > electronics for recycling. At least in Europe. > > Actually, according to the signage at the local station for bulk > waste, recycling, etc., LED tubes go into the same container as > fluorescents. Which seems odd. It's not odd at all. It's currently fairly standard practicve in many places. Here in New Zealand we have separate household wheelie bins that are used for "recycling" and general rubbish, and a smaller bin for kitchen waste (All these bins and collections are paid for from our annual city council taxes, even if you do not need to use the service / use a thid-party service!). Not long ago there was a consumer TV show report that found most of that stuff, after being collected by different trucks, simply goes to normal landfill anyway, so is a complete waste of everybody's time and money. More recently, the idiots in government have changed the rules about what can and cannot go in the recycling bin, which has made it far more confusing and means a lot more plastic has to go in the general rubbish bin instead. A lot of packaging has the recycling triabnlge on it, yet the recuycling companies here claim they cannot recycle it (in relaity they mean it's not worth their money for them to do it). In many places item were collected for "recycling" and then simply shipped to poorer countries to clean up, but most of those countries are now no longer accepting it, and as above, it's not worth the costs for the original country to recycle it either, so again simply goes to landfill.