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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Geoff <geoff@geoffwood.org> Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport.f1 Subject: Re: Sainz to Williams Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 13:28:58 +1200 Organization: Dis Lines: 44 Message-ID: <v8uikr$201s3$1@dont-email.me> References: <v8ap34$11sj3$1@dont-email.me> <v8ba46$14sb9$1@dont-email.me> <v8c348$1958s$1@dont-email.me> <lh12quF4k3sU1@mid.individual.net> <v8fvem$25pu6$1@dont-email.me> <v8g9eo$27qj4$1@dont-email.me> <v8ov9d$92op$2@dont-email.me> <v8qi61$mv58$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2024 03:29:00 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="16753cecb0bffee1ccbb8c930bde67fb"; logging-data="2099075"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1++15ulCMgZibP/lqSrZ9mnPdLl4x1x4cY=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:MOdbBRYkLlPK8epDuYNYiQIWZq4= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v8qi61$mv58$1@dont-email.me> On 6/08/2024 12:56 am, ~misfit~ wrote: > On 5/08/2024 10:27 am, Geoff wrote: >> On 2/08/2024 3:26 am, Alan wrote: >>> On 2024-08-01 05:35, ~misfit~ wrote: >>>> On 1/08/2024 9:29 pm, Sir Tim wrote: >>>>> ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Lando's relatively poor performance at Spa I think is down to him >>>>>> not being able to keep the win in the previous race. He took a >>>>>> psych hit >>>>>> realising that the team >>>>>> he's spent so long developing with don't value him as much as he >>>>>> thought >>>>>> they did and don't >>>>>> consider him to be number one. >>>>> >>>>> Yes. IIRC, Lando committed to a long contract with, what was then, >>>>> a team >>>>> in the doldrums. That act of faith deserves a reward. >>>>> >>>> I agree. Without the unwavering services of such a talented driver >>>> they couldn't have developed the car as much as they have. It's as >>>> much Lando's car as it is the design team's who built it around him. >>>> Oscar will have his day but the present and near future at McLaren >>>> IMO should belong to Lando when it comes down to the team deciding >>>> who wins a race. >>>> >>> >>> McLaren fairly clearly had an agreement about keeping the order of >>> finish the same as immediately prior to the final pit stops of the race. >>> >>> Norris was right to swap places if he agreed to that. >> >> And if he had done it earlier, the presumably they would have been >> free to subsequently race. Shoots himself in foot.... > > How could he be free to race if they agreed to keep the order the same > as prior to the final pit stop? Lando's no dullard, if that was an > option he'd have taken it. We cannot know the details, but I would imagine such an agreement would relate to routine' pitstops , and not strategic ones like this. geoff