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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <abc@def.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Who here is too stupid to know that DDD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its own return instruction? Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 08:43:09 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 66 Message-ID: <v8vtle$32fso$13@dont-email.me> References: <v8jh7m$30k55$1@dont-email.me> <v8kp6s$3c5h2$2@dont-email.me> <v8ld1f$3f6vr$5@dont-email.me> <v8n9vm$3ume2$1@dont-email.me> <v8nsmt$1n09$5@dont-email.me> <v8q05j$ik30$1@dont-email.me> <c-WdnSXh_5bNdC37nZ2dnZfqlJwAAAAA@giganews.com> <v8v7fs$29ovd$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2024 15:43:10 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f6826d85dca534e829aa60949a8b0d61"; logging-data="3227544"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+ejGKLYAePdEY/igDWVco1" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:OeV8I1OKOhV7W5fbyR6C+rdEwa0= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v8v7fs$29ovd$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3279 On 8/7/2024 2:24 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-08-05 15:01:36 +0000, olcott said: > >> On 8/5/2024 2:49 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2024-08-04 12:37:49 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>>> On 8/4/2024 2:18 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>> On 2024-08-03 13:58:07 +0000, olcott said: >>>>> >>>>>> On 8/3/2024 3:19 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>> On 2024-08-02 20:57:26 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Who here is too stupid to know that DDD correctly simulated >>>>>>>> by HHH cannot possibly reach its own return instruction? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> void DDD() >>>>>>>> { >>>>>>>> HHH(DDD); >>>>>>>> return; >>>>>>>> } >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Everyone here understands that that depends on whther HHH returns. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fred's understanding is worse than that. >>>>> >>>>> You don't know whether that is true. >>>>> >>>>>> Some have deeper understanding than that. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Ben has the best understanding of all* >>>>> >>>>> In particular better than you. >>>>> >>>> >>>> *Ben has a deeper agreement with me than anyone else* >>> >>> Doesn't matter. Points of disagreement, both deep and shallow, are >>> more important than points of agreement. >> >> Not at all. >> Most of the reviewers simply don't have a clue that they >> don't have a clue. The error is entirely on their side. > > Your reviewers don't need a clue. You need. But you don't have. > And you don't know you don't have so you don't seek. As you > don't seek you will never get. > void DDD() { HHH(DDD); return; } Any expert in the C language that knows what x86 emulators are knows that DDD correctly emulated by HHH specifies what is essentially equivalent to infinite recursion. It seems that no one here has that degree of expertise. That they know that they don't understand these things and still say that I am wrong is dishonest. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer