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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Pearls Before Swine: Rat The Luddite Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 08:28:09 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: <v903q8$35ehe$1@dont-email.me> References: <v8s4e1$1bfga$2@dont-email.me> <v8s8j4$1cbov$1@dont-email.me> <nr24bjdet72ak69sfl5063e5adslm32o4u@4ax.com> <h4h4bjhl38jiaglplpggml4nhtt89odnpp@4ax.com> <slrnvb4nj4.tcg.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> <lhh8r6Fik7sU1@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2024 17:28:08 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="70913e5f7d0eabcb1350df47442196d9"; logging-data="3324462"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+SuZAr+0rANJSUMI33XyNS" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:3YNpcMorfnNmSVriYvgYB/tLb+A= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <lhh8r6Fik7sU1@mid.individual.net> Bytes: 2897 On 8/7/2024 5:49 AM, Chris Buckley wrote: > ["Followup-To:" header set to rec.arts.sf.written.] > On 2024-08-06, Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote: >> On 2024-08-06, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote: >> >>> However, LEDs have the advantage over LCDs of being disposable in the >>> landfill (ie, put in the trash as opposed to having to be dropped off >>> at special locations) when they stop working. Well, if that /is/ an >>> advantage, of course. And both have the advantage over incandescents >>> that they work a lot longer. >> >> LED lights are electronics and are collected along with other >> electronics for recycling. At least in Europe. >> >> Actually, according to the signage at the local station for bulk >> waste, recycling, etc., LED tubes go into the same container as >> fluorescents. Which seems odd. > > It sounds like things are changing here (near DC). LED bulbs were > collected for recycling for many years along with the fluorescents, > but that's not the case anymore. They may still be considered mild > hazardous waste (the website is inconsistent now) but not recyclable. > Ordinary trash may be fine. > > Strings of LED Christmas lights are still recycled, but I assume that's > for the wire rather than the bulbs. > Actual recycling turns out to be a lot more finicky than we were lead to believe. "Just recycle your plastic!" Which kind of plastic? There are a few hundred different types and a lot of them simply CAN'T be recycled economically, if at all. Separating metals costs and so on. -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.