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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: HHH maps its input to the behavior specified by it --- never reaches its halt state Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 08:15:45 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 64 Message-ID: <v92ge1$p1$2@dont-email.me> References: <v8jh7m$30k55$1@dont-email.me> <v8kp6s$3c5h2$2@dont-email.me> <v8ld1f$3f6vr$5@dont-email.me> <v8ldl0$3ennf$1@dont-email.me> <v8lfb9$3g2jl$1@dont-email.me> <v8lgsr$3gadt$2@dont-email.me> <v8lhrr$3gkbk$1@dont-email.me> <v8n6un$3tv08$1@dont-email.me> <v8nums$1n09$6@dont-email.me> <v8vah7$29sva$1@dont-email.me> <v8vr7e$32fso$2@dont-email.me> <v91vc4$3qp1r$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2024 15:15:46 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7c97dfd2b0fa781dfb9291aeaceb4463"; logging-data="801"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18YTCl7Xt6oCxPYl7YYFLhn" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:bxw+ew9a1bCLrOmnD/SeExnUjEM= In-Reply-To: <v91vc4$3qp1r$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3668 On 8/8/2024 3:24 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: > Op 07.aug.2024 om 15:01 schreef olcott: >> On 8/7/2024 3:16 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>> Op 04.aug.2024 om 15:11 schreef olcott: >>>> On 8/4/2024 1:26 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>> Op 03.aug.2024 om 17:20 schreef olcott:>> >>>>>> When you try to show how DDD simulated by HHH does >>>>>> reach its "return" instruction you must necessarily >>>>>> must fail unless you cheat by disagreeing with the >>>>>> semantics of C. That you fail to have a sufficient >>>>>> understanding of the semantics of C is less than no >>>>>> rebuttal what-so-ever. >>>>> >>>>> Fortunately that is not what I try, because I understand that HHH >>>>> cannot possibly simulate itself correctly. >>>>> >>>> >>>> void DDD() >>>> { >>>> HHH(DDD); >>>> return; >>>> } >>>> >>>> In other words when HHH simulates itself simulating DDD it >>>> is supposed to do something other than simulating itself >>>> simulating DDD ??? Do you expect it to make a cup of coffee? >>>> >>> >>> Is English too difficult for you. I said HHH cannot do it correctly. >> >> *According to an incorrect criteria of correct* >> You keep trying to get away with disagreeing with >> the semantics of the x86 language. *That is not allowed* >> > Again accusations without evidence. > We proved that HHH deviated from the semantics of the x86 language by > skipping the last few instructions of a halting program. void DDD() { HHH(DDD); return; } Each HHH of every HHH that can possibly exist definitely *emulates zero to infinity instructions correctly* In none of these cases does the emulated DDD ever reach its "return" instruction halt state. *There are no double-talk weasel words around this* *There are no double-talk weasel words around this* *There are no double-talk weasel words around this* There is no need to show any execution trace at the x86 level every expert in the C language sees that the emulated DDD cannot possibly reaches its "return" instruction halt state. Every rebuttal that anyone can possibly make is necessarily erroneous because the first paragraph is a tautology. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer