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From: Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com>
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Subject: Re: Pearls Before Swine: Rat The Luddite
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 16:21:21 -0700
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On 8/6/24 14:18, Your Name wrote:
> On 2024-08-06 11:40:02 +0000, Mad Hamish said:
>> On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 16:25:08 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On 2024-08-06 03:14:09 +0000, Bobbie Sellers said:
>>>> On 7/7/24 05:38, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-07-07, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> LED bulbs are largely a scam for bulb makers to stuff more money into
>>>>>> their pockets.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's some realistic numbers:  I replace a 40 W incandescent bulb
>>>>> with a LED one.  Aldi middle isle, 2 euros.  Residental power is
>>>>> about 0.40 euros/kWh here, so the bulb will have paid for itself once
>>>>> it has saved 2/0.40 = 5 kWh.  It produces the same illumination at
>>>>> 1/10 of the power of the incandescent, so it saves 40 - 40/10 = 36 W.
>>>>> 5000 Wh / 36 W = 140 h, so if used one hour each day, it will have
>>>>> paid for itself in under five months.  If it eventually dies after
>>>>> 10,000 hours instead of a promised 30,000, so be it.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can plug in numbers that are applicable to your situation and
>>>>> in your part of the world.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     That is theoretical saving. Down at the Power Company the
>>>> receipts are down due to power saving so to pay for maintenance
>>>> and emergency repair service they must raise the price of your
>>>> power. This is what happened in California at least in the
>>>> San Francisco Bay Area and the Pacific Gas and Electric Company
>>>> is now mainly a power distribution company and they are putting
>>>> lines under ground now in sensitive areas which we are helping
>>>> to pay for.  As well as Battery Farms to save all the wind & solar
>>>> power generated while the sun is shining and wind is blowing for
>>>> those times we call night.
>>>>     And if stops some wild fires in sensitive areas
>>>> then it will be worth the additional cost because the day
>>>> after the sky turns red with smoke it comes down to where
>>>> we must breath.
>>>>
>>>>     bliss
>>>
>>> Yep. and none of that new greeny nonsense, including LED bulbs, are
>>> actually any better for the environment than the old versions anyway.
>>> So it's simply a waste of money "look good" promotional exercise.
>>
>> No doubt you actualy have figures to prove that assertion is
>> correct...
> 
> You simply have to look at the facts.
> 
> Electric cars are claimed to be better for the environment, mainly due 
> to the lack of exhaust gases. The reality is that the manufacturing and 
> disposal of the battery pack is highly non-green, the extra weight of 
> the cars is causing all sorts of issues, and the generation of the extra 
> electricity to charge them is often non-green as well (including the 
> manufacture and disposal of solar panels, wind turbines, etc.).
> 
> And that doesn't even include the destruction / disturbance of large 
> areas of land and sea for electricity generation "farms" and the sheer 
> "visual pollution" ugliness of loads of wind turbines.
> 
> Most of these ridiculous ideas have been rushed through simply to 
> appease the greeny brigade with zero actual thought of the full 
> consequences.
> 

	So you are a climate change denier?
	Think that Global Warming is all a Chinese Scam?
	Look at the numbers if your are not innumerate.
	Do you not believe in the lack of Arctic Sea Ice?
	Think that the changes in Antarctica ice pack are illusory?

	Do you believe that the Moon Landing was faked?

	bliss

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