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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: HHH maps its input to the behavior specified by it --- never
 reaches its halt state ---
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2024 08:41:14 -0500
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On 8/9/2024 1:39 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
> Op 09.aug.2024 om 05:03 schreef olcott:
>> On 8/8/2024 9:52 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 8/8/24 9:15 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>
>>>> void DDD()
>>>> {
>>>>    HHH(DDD);
>>>>    return;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> Each HHH of every HHH that can possibly exist definitely
>>>> *emulates zero to infinity instructions correctly* In
>>>> none of these cases does the emulated DDD ever reach
>>>> its "return" instruction halt state.
>>>>
>>>> *There are no double-talk weasel words around this*
>>>> *There are no double-talk weasel words around this*
>>>> *There are no double-talk weasel words around this*
>>>>
>>>> There is no need to show any execution trace at the x86 level
>>>> every expert in the C language sees that the emulated DDD
>>>> cannot possibly reaches its "return" instruction halt state.
>>>>
>>>> Every rebuttal that anyone can possibly make is necessarily
>>>> erroneous because the first paragraph is a tautology.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nope, it is a lie based on comfusing the behavior of DDD which is 
>>> what "Halting" is.
>>>
>>
>> Finally something besides
>> the strawman deception,
>> disagreeing with a tautology, or
>> pure ad hominem.
>>
>> You must first agree with everything that I said above
>> before we can get to this last and final point that it
>> not actually directly referenced above.
>>
>> *Two key facts*
>> (a) The "return" instruction is the halt state of DDD.
>> (b) DDD correctly emulated by any HHH never reaches this state.
> There is no correct simulation of HHH by itself. HHH cannot possibly 
> simulate itself correctly. A correct simulation of a halting program 
> must reach this state.

Try and show how it is incorrect.


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