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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: This makes all Analytic(Olcott) truth computable Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 11:13:44 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 53 Message-ID: <v977fo$gsru$1@dont-email.me> References: <v86olp$5km4$1@dont-email.me> <v8a4vf$uhll$1@dont-email.me> <v8aqh7$11ivs$1@dont-email.me> <v8cr4g$1gk19$1@dont-email.me> <v8dinp$1kii7$1@dont-email.me> <v8hv72$2mmsq$1@dont-email.me> <v8iisj$2qetj$1@dont-email.me> <v8kuhb$3d5q8$1@dont-email.me> <v8lc7p$3f6vr$2@dont-email.me> <v8naa8$3uo7s$1@dont-email.me> <v8nqo7$1n09$1@dont-email.me> <v8sm9o$1gk42$1@dont-email.me> <v8t2fl$1ilg6$2@dont-email.me> <v8v97m$2cofk$1@dont-email.me> <v8vusp$32fso$16@dont-email.me> <v91p95$3ppav$1@dont-email.me> <v92q4f$37e9$1@dont-email.me> <v94l1p$ldq7$1@dont-email.me> <v95c2j$p5rb$4@dont-email.me> <v95cke$p5rb$5@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 10:13:45 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a5c6a761e1a568dd548fea8baecc84eb"; logging-data="553854"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX190DeyrSz6aGoPfGAGh/ih9" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:sIJlYbS+nQ6LG9HhJLq70pjtaGY= Bytes: 3364 On 2024-08-09 15:29:18 +0000, olcott said: > On 8/9/2024 10:19 AM, olcott wrote: >> On 8/9/2024 3:46 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2024-08-08 16:01:19 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>>> >>>> It does seem that he is all hung up on not understanding >>>> how the synonymity of bachelor and unmarried works. >>> >>> What in the synonymity, other than the synonymity itself, >>> would be relevant to Quine's topic? >>> >> >> He mentions it 98 times in his paper >> https://www.ditext.com/quine/quine.html >> I haven't looked at it in years. >> >>>> I don't really give a rat's ass what he said all that matters >>>> to me is that I have defined expressions of language that are >>>> {true on the basis of their meaning expressed in language} >>>> so that I have analytic(Olcott) to make my other points. >>> >>> That does not justify lying. >>> >> >> I never lie. Sometimes I make mistakes. >> It looks like you only want to dodge the actual >> topic with any distraction that you can find. >> >> Expressions of language that are {true on the basis of >> their meaning expressed in this same language} defines >> analytic(Olcott) that overcomes any objections that >> anyone can possibly have about the analytic/synthetic >> distinction. >> > > Expressions of language that are {true on the basis of > their meaning expressed in this same language} defines > analytic(Olcott) that overcomes any objections that > anyone can possibly have about the analytic/synthetic > distinction. > > This makes all Analytic(Olcott) truth computable or the > expression is simply untrue because it lacks a truthmaker. No, it doesn't. An algrithm or at least a proof of existence of an algrithm makes something computable. You can't compute if you con't know how. The truth makeker of computability is an algorithm. -- Mikko