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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: HHH maps its input to the behavior specified by it --- never reaches its halt state Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 11:29:51 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 57 Message-ID: <v978dv$h1ib$1@dont-email.me> References: <v8jh7m$30k55$1@dont-email.me> <v8lem0$3ftpo$2@dont-email.me> <735401a612caec3eedb531311fd1e09b3d94521d@i2pn2.org> <v8lkdb$3h16a$1@dont-email.me> <5ee8b34a57f12b0630509183ffbd7c07804634b3@i2pn2.org> <v8ll4v$3h8m2$1@dont-email.me> <cbde765b8f9e769930b6c8589556907a41d9c256@i2pn2.org> <v8lm80$3h8m2$3@dont-email.me> <v8n6mq$3tv07$3@dont-email.me> <v8o14v$30uf$1@dont-email.me> <950d4eed7965040e841a970d48d5b6f417ff43dc@i2pn2.org> <v8oj1n$6kik$3@dont-email.me> <v8pvke$ih0a$1@dont-email.me> <4-qdnbdw1JzlRS37nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> <v8v7p3$29r2r$1@dont-email.me> <v8vub1$32fso$14@dont-email.me> <1e1fa9bc4bbc00aa65c1a7974bd1bda87687c92b@i2pn2.org> <v90di8$38oni$1@dont-email.me> <47a76378d634bf0db4017f879d0160793b57125e@i2pn2.org> <v9161o$3gaju$1@dont-email.me> <b84374e766c199e1ba38ef1dc3bc8f6ab2c39dfc@i2pn2.org> <v91i97$3n4m0$1@dont-email.me> <v91unh$3rbor$1@dont-email.me> <v92gja$p1$3@dont-email.me> <v94m0l$ljf4$1@dont-email.me> <v95ae9$p5rb$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 10:29:52 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a5c6a761e1a568dd548fea8baecc84eb"; logging-data="558667"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/tf1Vatsq1zEz3Gd0/4HL1" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:IMG4GAD5YVMv+JArOjKnzyBpPS0= Bytes: 3649 On 2024-08-09 14:51:51 +0000, olcott said: > On 8/9/2024 4:03 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-08-08 13:18:34 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> void DDD() >>> { >>> HHH(DDD); >>> return; >>> } >>> >>> Each HHH of every HHH that can possibly exist definitely >>> *emulates zero to infinity instructions correctly* In >>> none of these cases does the emulated DDD ever reach >>> its "return" instruction halt state. >> >> The ranges of "each HHH" and "every HHH" are not defined above >> so that does not really mean anything. > > Here is something that literally does not mean anything: > "0i34ine ir m0945r (*&ubYU I*(ubn)I*054 gfdpodf[" Looks like encrypted text that might mean something. > "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously" This could be encrypted text, too, or perhaps refers to some inside knowledge or convention. > I defined an infinite set of HHH x86 emulators. Maybe somewnete but not in the message I commented. > I stipulated that each member of this set emulates > zero to infinity instructions of DDD. That doesn't restrict much. > *I can't say it this way without losing 90% of my audience* > Each element of this set is mapped to one element of the > set of non-negative integers indicating the number of > x86 instructions of DDD that it emulates. It is easier to talk about mapping if is given a name. > *This one seems to be good* > Each element of this set corresponds to one element of > the set of positive integers indicating the number of > x86 instructions of DDD that it emulates. That would mean that only a finite number (possibly zero) of instructions is emulated. But the restriction to DDD does not seem reasonable. -- Mikko