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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: HHH maps its input to the behavior specified by it --- never reaches its halt state ---natural number mapping Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 06:30:34 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 77 Message-ID: <v97j0q$ilah$2@dont-email.me> References: <v8jh7m$30k55$1@dont-email.me> <735401a612caec3eedb531311fd1e09b3d94521d@i2pn2.org> <v8lkdb$3h16a$1@dont-email.me> <5ee8b34a57f12b0630509183ffbd7c07804634b3@i2pn2.org> <v8ll4v$3h8m2$1@dont-email.me> <cbde765b8f9e769930b6c8589556907a41d9c256@i2pn2.org> <v8lm80$3h8m2$3@dont-email.me> <v8n6mq$3tv07$3@dont-email.me> <v8o14v$30uf$1@dont-email.me> <950d4eed7965040e841a970d48d5b6f417ff43dc@i2pn2.org> <v8oj1n$6kik$3@dont-email.me> <v8pvke$ih0a$1@dont-email.me> <4-qdnbdw1JzlRS37nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> <v8v7p3$29r2r$1@dont-email.me> <v8vub1$32fso$14@dont-email.me> <1e1fa9bc4bbc00aa65c1a7974bd1bda87687c92b@i2pn2.org> <v90di8$38oni$1@dont-email.me> <47a76378d634bf0db4017f879d0160793b57125e@i2pn2.org> <v9161o$3gaju$1@dont-email.me> <b84374e766c199e1ba38ef1dc3bc8f6ab2c39dfc@i2pn2.org> <v91i97$3n4m0$1@dont-email.me> <v91unh$3rbor$1@dont-email.me> <v92gja$p1$3@dont-email.me> <v94m0l$ljf4$1@dont-email.me> <v95ae9$p5rb$1@dont-email.me> <v978dv$h1ib$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 13:30:34 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ec0d1ee71ceed677a7540299f25b1a73"; logging-data="611665"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX187VDWIbmjVfwbMW/z8ymHG" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Xilft+nde8mtz+NolrnjH9uJv98= In-Reply-To: <v978dv$h1ib$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4570 On 8/10/2024 3:29 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-08-09 14:51:51 +0000, olcott said: > >> On 8/9/2024 4:03 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2024-08-08 13:18:34 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>>> void DDD() >>>> { >>>> HHH(DDD); >>>> return; >>>> } >>>> >>>> Each HHH of every HHH that can possibly exist definitely >>>> *emulates zero to infinity instructions correctly* In >>>> none of these cases does the emulated DDD ever reach >>>> its "return" instruction halt state. >>> >>> The ranges of "each HHH" and "every HHH" are not defined above >>> so that does not really mean anything. >> >> Here is something that literally does not mean anything: >> "0i34ine ir m0945r (*&ubYU I*(ubn)I*054 gfdpodf[" > > Looks like encrypted text that might mean something. > >> "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously" > > This could be encrypted text, too, or perhaps refers to some > inside knowledge or convention. > >> I defined an infinite set of HHH x86 emulators. > > Maybe somewnete but not in the message I commented. > >> I stipulated that each member of this set emulates >> zero to infinity instructions of DDD. > > That doesn't restrict much. > >> *I can't say it this way without losing 90% of my audience* >> Each element of this set is mapped to one element of the >> set of non-negative integers indicating the number of >> x86 instructions of DDD that it emulates. > > It is easier to talk about mapping if is given a name. > >> *This one seems to be good* >> Each element of this set corresponds to one element of >> the set of positive integers indicating the number of >> x86 instructions of DDD that it emulates. > > That would mean that only a finite number (possibly zero) of > instructions is emulated. But the restriction to DDD does not > seem reasonable. > *The set of HHH x86 emulators are defined such that* Each element of this set corresponds to one element of the set of positive integers indicating the number of x86 instructions of DDD that it correctly emulates. When we can see that in none of these cases that the correctly emulated DDD ever reaches its "return" instruction halt state. This entails that each HHH can take a wild guess that its input does not reach this halt state and necessarily be correct. When all X has property Y then each X is necessarily correct to state that is has property Y. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer