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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: HHH maps its input to the behavior specified by it --- never
 reaches its halt state ---natural number mapping
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 07:06:11 -0500
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On 8/10/2024 6:57 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 8/10/24 7:30 AM, olcott wrote:
>> On 8/10/2024 3:29 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2024-08-09 14:51:51 +0000, olcott said:
>>>
>>>> On 8/9/2024 4:03 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-08-08 13:18:34 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> void DDD()
>>>>>> {
>>>>>>    HHH(DDD);
>>>>>>    return;
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Each HHH of every HHH that can possibly exist definitely
>>>>>> *emulates zero to infinity instructions correctly* In
>>>>>> none of these cases does the emulated DDD ever reach
>>>>>> its "return" instruction halt state.
>>>>>
>>>>> The ranges of "each HHH" and "every HHH" are not defined above
>>>>> so that does not really mean anything.
>>>>
>>>> Here is something that literally does not mean anything:
>>>> "0i34ine ir m0945r (*&ubYU  I*(ubn)I*054 gfdpodf["
>>>
>>> Looks like encrypted text that might mean something.
>>>
>>>> "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously"
>>>
>>> This could be encrypted text, too, or perhaps refers to some
>>> inside knowledge or convention.
>>>
>>>> I defined an infinite set of HHH x86 emulators.
>>>
>>> Maybe somewnete but not in the message I commented.
>>>
>>>> I stipulated that each member of this set emulates
>>>> zero to infinity instructions of DDD.
>>>
>>> That doesn't restrict much.
>>>
>>>> *I can't say it this way without losing 90% of my audience*
>>>> Each element of this set is mapped to one element of the
>>>> set of non-negative integers indicating the number of
>>>> x86 instructions of DDD that it emulates.
>>>
>>> It is easier to talk about mapping if is given a name.
>>>
>>>> *This one seems to be good*
>>>> Each element of this set corresponds to one element of
>>>> the set of positive integers indicating the number of
>>>> x86 instructions of DDD that it emulates.
>>>
>>> That would mean that only a finite number (possibly zero) of
>>> instructions is emulated. But the restriction to DDD does not
>>> seem reasonable.
>>>
>>
>> *The set of HHH x86 emulators are defined such that*
> 
> I thopught HHH was a deider?
> 
>>
>> Each element of this set corresponds to one element of
>> the set of positive integers indicating the number of
>> x86 instructions of DDD that it correctly emulates.
> 
> And only those element of the set that either reach the final state, or 
> simulate forever are "correct" emulators of the whole program, suitable 
> to show halting.
> 

void DDD()
{
   HHH(DDD);
   return;
}

In other words even though it is dead obvious to
us that a complete simulation of DDD simulated by HHH
will never halt algorithms will forever be ridiculously
more stupid and never be able to see this?


-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer