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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2025 09:14:16 -0400
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On 19 Apr 2025 11:21:48 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

>John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 04:28:32 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 23:02:10 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 4/18/2025 8:12 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hmm "Free speech scares some people"? I don't know about "scares" but
>>>>> Frankie's free speech calling you a coward certainly set you off.
>>>> 
>>>> Oh, it happened before that! Our timid tricycle rider entered his 
>>>> permanent snit before I ever used the word "coward."
>>>> 
>>>> He was highly offended when I suggested he lacked the courage or 
>>>> competence to ride normal roads, and that his back-and-forth path riding 
>>>> might be OK for him, but too boring for me.
>>>> 
>>>> Remember, my statement was in response to a guy who said there was no 
>>>> way riding near cars could be safe; and who can't even summon the nerve 
>>>> to ride an empty suburban bike trail without having deadly weaponry 
>>>> immediately at hand, chambered and ready to fire.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not seeing any evidence of courage there.
>>> 
>>> <LOL> As if a wussie like you would know what courage is all about. 
>>> 
>>> Actually, what pissed me off was before that when Krygowski bragged by
>>> posting a list of ineffective thing's that I was supposed to believe
>>> he'd done and demanded that I list, in detail, all of my bicycling
>>> experiences...
>>> 
>>> "How much recreational riding have you done on roads? How many years
>>> commuting to work by bike on normal roads? How much other utility
>>> riding have you done on ordinary roads? How much overnight or longer
>>> traveling have you done on normal roads? How much bike camping? How
>>> many U.S. states have you ridden in? How many foreign countries? How
>>> many century rides have you done? How many rides longer than 100 miles
>>> in one day? How many times have you organized and led friends on road
>>> rides? How many times have you organized and run multi-hundred rider
>>> event rides on normal roads?
>>> 
>>> Answer in detail, please. That will allow us to gauge whether your
>>> courage and experience really are more than mine."
>>> - Frank Krygowski 
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/mmxzneaxsdE/m/qVoI4KQlAQAJ
>>> 
>>> That posting told me exactly what kind of a person he was. He was
>>> going to show the new guy that he was to be respected or else. I
>>> called his bluff and now he hides from me knowing that whatever he
>>> posts about me results in more humiliation from me.
>>> 
>>> He actually thought that riding on a group bicycle ride was an
>>> accompishment.
>> 
>> His claims to fame are rather Self-Grandizing. 
>> For example.  "How many foreign countries?" I've ridden a number of
>> countries outside the U.S.(one a war zone) and I can assure you that
>> other then which side of the road to ride in I saw essentially no
>> difference.
>
>Really? Quite different cycling experience just locally and further afield.
>As folks expectations differ.
>> 
>> As for his other claims to fame... while he obviously feels proud, it
>> appears from his writing that it is much a matter of "self
>> gratification" and even yet more proof of his Narcissistic personality
>> as those that suffer from this mental disorder have an unreasonably
>> high sense of their own importance. They need and seek attention and
>> want people to admire them. 
>
>He might at worse overstate his experience ie difference between being a
>tourist and living in an area even if only for a year or so.
>
>Roger Merriman

I can't see that it matters much as to what country you ride your
bicycle in. You mighrt have to know the different laws, but that's
easy to do.

--
C'est bon
Soloman