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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Books Banned in Utah. Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 14:05:19 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 40 Message-ID: <v98a4v$rka8$1@dont-email.me> References: <v90pgc$3clah$1@dont-email.me> <v95n35$8ln$1@dgold.eu> <0s1fbjpjbppeo7tjci55bckbvngllpnldu@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 20:05:20 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="98b836d7fc65098022830767eadfda78"; logging-data="905544"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19SsUM5OhrMjB4kjFciBDxm1vXuW4/5GJU=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:M0kQSLc+e2GZGWD5OPT54QPZgf8= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <0s1fbjpjbppeo7tjci55bckbvngllpnldu@4ax.com> Bytes: 2751 On 8/10/2024 11:40 AM, Paul S Person wrote: > On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 18:27:49 -0000 (UTC), Daniel Goldsmith > <dgold@dgold.invalid> wrote: > >> On 2024-08-07, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: >>> Utah has banned 13 books, including Oryx and Crake by Margaret Atwood >>> which basically claims that large corporations are not to be trusted >>> with science. >>> I do not know any of the other authors but Sarah J. Maas writes Fantasy. >>> James Nichol will be delighted that women are being recognised with >>> twelve of the thirteen books being written by women. >> >> Thanks for posting that message. >> >> The responses are why I, and others, no longer participate here. >> >> If I want to read far-right bigotry, I'll open a Heinlein. > > Too bad it is misleading. > > They banned 13 books /from the school libraries/, not from Utah. I > consider the decision idiotic pandering to semi-fascist ultra-Maga > weirdos, BTW. Decisions based on content rather than, say, reading > level, are inherently dubious. > > Most of the discussion here has been about the right to do so. Which > in Seattle, bluest of the blue, has existed since at least the 1950s. There are about 3 million publications in the US each year. Libraries have neither unlimited budgets, nor unlimited shelf space. There *has* to be a selection process for what gets included. The current list of books banned from Utah school libraries may be a ludicrous example of adult fears, but to say no books can be excluded for any reason is a non-starter. *Most* have to be excluded, else every school library would be as large as the Library of Congress. pt