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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> Newsgroups: comp.lang.prolog Subject: Re: Is a PIP for Syntax extensions necessary? (Was; post-N246 Read- and Write-Option variable_names/1) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 14:46:24 +0200 Message-ID: <v9abr0$1383s$1@solani.org> References: <v8bc1u$indc$1@solani.org> <v98b1p$123qt$1@solani.org> <v98bpp$124d0$1@solani.org> <v98o1s$12aq2$1@solani.org> <v98o6o$12aq2$2@solani.org> <v98ort$12bb4$1@solani.org> <v98pcg$12bjs$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 12:46:24 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="1155196"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:unWUI1PEckOT6WwA7t2BzvrEkd8= X-User-ID: eJwFwYEBgDAIA7CXhtAC5wy0/59gAqdxMwgGBLGkDkUOv7ec4eYC0iOMp17ook/X7GTCtv08uJvXrTRxfjSOFIk= In-Reply-To: <v98pcg$12bjs$1@solani.org> Bytes: 2185 Lines: 36 Ok, when I listed these two tomb stones, this wasn't because I was jealous that SWI-Prolog has dicts and dicts syntax, its more the KISS principle, and the idea that Prolog processors should pursue non-functional optimizations without new functional requirements. It might appear as a strange idea, but it has many advantages like not affecting the end-user functionally in any way and not affecting portability in any way. In as far my tomb stones wish list is that long: - SWI-Prolog dicts - String type [not only SWI-Prolog] The string type idea made it also into a few newer Prolog system, but wouldn't it be nice if strings where just transparent, and implementation detail the Prolog processor chooses, and not anything the end-user has to worry about? Mild Shock schrieb: >> So we have two victims in 2024, two >> things died in 2024, are pepsi now: >> >> - Scryer Prolog >> >> - SWI-Prolog Dicts >> >> LoL