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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.logic,sci.math Subject: Re: Replacement of Cardinality (infinite middle) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 22:21:28 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: <v9b6g8$2ruvr$1@dont-email.me> References: <hsRF8g6ZiIZRPFaWbZaL2jR1IiU@jntp> <IzWzFdkkm97GEXyAioF3IpRiSfI@jntp> <42d2b329-5394-47e0-b8c9-098908b2e9a8@att.net> <__cCn6h6Ey1Kz0BrIf6EShypg4M@jntp> <e8a3a66a-7d83-4658-9f4c-23d7dc354fb9@att.net> <iqelfxYKWhBbwcm10DcO5hr3scI@jntp> <f920592b-897c-48b9-a9af-80f25bc60e4b@att.net> <DDPks1ynTy6IhIWNHaxt25GM1v0@jntp> <c1f0efc8-04ca-4f2d-9820-cfd54c0eca73@att.net> <v90rp5$3dbpd$1@dont-email.me> <L8Pl0ELcnLfKVO0KrMmhSqDd-Y0@jntp> <v926ot$3tjq6$1@dont-email.me> <PbydnQO1H-qe_yj7nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> <v98ppi$ue8i$1@dont-email.me> <v98qeo$ul4c$1@dont-email.me> <v98qm3$ue8i$4@dont-email.me> <v98rnd$uuqh$1@dont-email.me> <v9926l$102t7$1@dont-email.me> <v993ip$10cor$1@dont-email.me> <v99e6j$1etn8$1@dont-email.me> <v9anp7$2o5mp$2@dont-email.me> <v9b3fi$2remm$3@dont-email.me> Reply-To: invalid@example.invalid MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 22:21:29 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6f45b0a54eed1bf687b295ccc4a594f1"; logging-data="3013627"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18o8gWl9BXyWqcCG396l/r5" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:8c8DLvRAkxJveF6OMrSVtRNdlww= In-Reply-To: <v9b3fi$2remm$3@dont-email.me> Content-Language: de-DE Bytes: 3166 Am 11.08.2024 um 21:29 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson: > On 8/11/2024 9:10 AM, Moebius wrote: >> Am 11.08.2024 um 06:20 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson: >>> On 8/10/2024 6:19 PM, Moebius wrote: >>>> Am 11.08.2024 um 02:55 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson: >>>>> On 8/10/2024 4:05 PM, Moebius wrote: >>>> >>>>>> I guess, JB would say: "If we don't consider omega, we don't >>>>>> consider omega." :-P >>>>> >>>>> For some reason I am thinking of salad here...? ;^) >>>> >>>> You won't agree? :-) >>> >>> I can see a line, comprised of two n-ary points. They have a p0 and a >>> p1, yet there is an infinity between then. [etc. etc.] >> >> And where do you see omega on that line? (Very ... VERY ... far away?) >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvQ6dasK614 > > I guess its basically "out of scope" in a sense? Yeah, but "just not there" might be more appropriate. You see: "If we don't consider omega, we don't consider omega." Let me try to explain. If we consider the interval [0, 1] of real numbers: |-----------------| 0 1 then 2 is not on this line segment: it's just not there. :-) But the case with omega is worse: It's not on the real line at all. omega !e IR. On the other hand we *may* extend the "real number line". See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_real_number_line