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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: HHH maps its input to the behavior specified by it --- never reaches its halt state ---natural number mapping Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 07:42:13 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: <v9cvv5$39tbd$1@dont-email.me> References: <v8jh7m$30k55$1@dont-email.me> <v8ll4v$3h8m2$1@dont-email.me> <cbde765b8f9e769930b6c8589556907a41d9c256@i2pn2.org> <v8lm80$3h8m2$3@dont-email.me> <v8n6mq$3tv07$3@dont-email.me> <v8o14v$30uf$1@dont-email.me> <950d4eed7965040e841a970d48d5b6f417ff43dc@i2pn2.org> <v8oj1n$6kik$3@dont-email.me> <v8pvke$ih0a$1@dont-email.me> <4-qdnbdw1JzlRS37nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> <v8v7p3$29r2r$1@dont-email.me> <v8vub1$32fso$14@dont-email.me> <1e1fa9bc4bbc00aa65c1a7974bd1bda87687c92b@i2pn2.org> <v90di8$38oni$1@dont-email.me> <47a76378d634bf0db4017f879d0160793b57125e@i2pn2.org> <v9161o$3gaju$1@dont-email.me> <b84374e766c199e1ba38ef1dc3bc8f6ab2c39dfc@i2pn2.org> <v91i97$3n4m0$1@dont-email.me> <v91unh$3rbor$1@dont-email.me> <v92gja$p1$3@dont-email.me> <v94m0l$ljf4$1@dont-email.me> <v95ae9$p5rb$1@dont-email.me> <v978dv$h1ib$1@dont-email.me> <v97j0q$ilah$2@dont-email.me> <v99lpd$25ri3$1@dont-email.me> <v9a88e$2923f$2@dont-email.me> <v9b4tr$2rdni$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 14:42:14 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0de40597f43653f20eea109a93bb850d"; logging-data="3470701"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/bn6YVStcQfnlyfeFA7sZP" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:aKpkUj294jzoK3kU/GN0GAF2hFg= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v9b4tr$2rdni$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3329 On 8/11/2024 2:54 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: > Op 11.aug.2024 om 13:45 schreef olcott: >> >> void DDD() >> { >> HHH(DDD); >> return; >> } >> >> None-the-less it is clear that of the above specified infinite >> set DDD correctly emulated by each element of that set never >> reaches its own "return" instruction halt state. > > Since no DDD is correctly simulated by HHH, we are talking about the > properties of an empty set. > But, indeed, the simulation of DDD by HHH fails to reach the halt state. > It aborts one cycle before the simulated HHH would reach its 'return' > instruction, after which DDD would reach its halt state. > >> >> My words must be understandable by ordinary C programmers >> and computer scientists. The latter tend to conclude that >> my work is incorrect as soon as they know the subject matter >> before actually seeing what I said. >> > Every C programmer understands that a simulation fails if it does not > reach the end of a halting program. Four expert C programmers (two with masters degrees in computer science) agree that DDD correctly simulated by HHH does not halt. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer