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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: Too bad nospam can't see this: Apple adds call recording to iOS 18 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 08:54:57 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 61 Message-ID: <v9db8h$3c4g7$1@dont-email.me> References: <v89e2i$1jjn$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v8pedc$14gob$1@news.mixmin.net> <v8v20r$281td$2@dont-email.me> <lcOcnQk0BcyX9Sj7nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> <v979f1$h7ef$1@dont-email.me> <v993a3$105ka$1@dont-email.me> <v99tlt$274vt$1@dont-email.me> <v9a3r0$12h97$1@solani.org> <v9c3l3$34l19$1@dont-email.me> <xn0oph1kt3z6flm000@reader443.eternal-september.org> <v9d7oo$3bb12$1@dont-email.me> <xn0oph7l647atky002@reader443.eternal-september.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 17:54:57 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="edc56eb8108d104882c5e60bcc2a2d39"; logging-data="3543559"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+cxSTjQGeY1hitfbWoHnIa6v85lTHjj6s=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:mT8VImm00vNxi78hFaZGFV7F1Ro= In-Reply-To: <xn0oph7l647atky002@reader443.eternal-september.org> Content-Language: en-CA Bytes: 3865 On 2024-08-12 08:13, badgolferman wrote: > Alan wrote: > >> On 2024-08-12 04:26, badgolferman wrote: >>> Alan wrote: >>> >>>> On 2024-08-11 03:29, badgolferman wrote: >>>>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> No-one >>>>>> recovers from death. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well, there have been a few… >>>>> >>>> >>>> No... ...there really have not. >>> >>> https://www.verywellhealth.com/can-people-come-back-from-the-dead-1298424 >>> >>> https://upworthyscience.com/coming-back-from-the-dead-is-no-longer-science-fiction/particle-7 >>> >> >> I'm sorry, but that is all just semantic games. > > In 2008, Thomas suffered a cardiac arrest at her Virginia home. > Following hospitalization, she suffered two further heart attacks and > was connected to a ventilator. > > During her stay in hospital, Thomas' heart stopped beating a remarkable > three times as she received treatment from doctors and entered a state > of clinical death, the medical term for when the heart stops beating in > a regular rhythm, causing the body the stop breathing and halting blood > circulation. > > The doctors made increased efforts to save the woman, who displayed no > signs of brain activity, including an unsuccessful attempt at induced > hypothermia in a form of targeted temperature management. > > However, it was 10 minutes after doctors had disconnected Thomas from > the ventilator when she shocked the world by suddenly waking up from > her clinical death state - after 17 long hours. > > he Lazarus phenomenon, also known as Lazarus syndrome or > autoresuscitation after failed cardiopulmonary resuscitation, describes > the spontaneous return of cardiac rhythm following failed attempts to > restore the heartbeat. > > The first case of the rare phenomenon was reported in 1982. At least 38 > cases were reported worldwide as of 2007, according to a study > published that year in the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine. > > https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/mind-and-spirit/article-723099 > All you've discovered is that the metrics for declaring death are wrong. Death, by definition, is that state from which you cannot come back. This is no different than when doctors used to believe that no heartbeat was definitive proof of death.