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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: HHH maps its input to the behavior specified by it --- key error in all the proofs --- Mike Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 18:26:07 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: <v9e5mg$3h0al$1@dont-email.me> References: <v8jh7m$30k55$1@dont-email.me> <v98uf7$vepo$1@dont-email.me> <60f1a533219c1237071f358999228eb48727f5e9@i2pn2.org> <v991tu$vepo$2@dont-email.me> <895f5e9b934bbfb72925fb109043500d49100a6a@i2pn2.org> <v994vs$10cfm$1@dont-email.me> <dec62801011bc5bf0b9eb9a62c607cf407198609@i2pn2.org> <v99870$14mlk$1@dont-email.me> <0f8f134fe961ee00910cce1d7f05b632d7567c6c@i2pn2.org> <v9abfu$2nabt$1@dont-email.me> <86c21e8a63450bf8b0c32f4f17ba0b503a914fe0@i2pn2.org> <v9d01i$39tbd$2@dont-email.me> <2c853efb65c3d8e2d4ba1c484f7002c74c68d895@i2pn2.org> <v9d1v8$3a9pe$1@dont-email.me> <e614d6b981fd5fa6eefc84894a14448d4663e3c7@i2pn2.org> <v9da2d$3bth4$1@dont-email.me> <64ddeeaa3a55a9e410de599bd8df53d3644ee5a3@i2pn2.org> <v9de0o$3cjse$1@dont-email.me> <v9dela$3cjse$2@dont-email.me> <b7c45ea22cb83908c31d909b67f4921156be52e3@i2pn2.org> <v9dgvl$3d1an$1@dont-email.me> <d289636b1d244acaf00108f46df093a9fd5aa27c@i2pn2.org> <v9dk2j$3dp9h$1@dont-email.me> <a30a6e85a930898cac3f6d2c2ff9a6f2da74ea0c@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 01:26:08 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5789d119f15570941a39cdb59159ffa5"; logging-data="3703125"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18adfqRrGStGleXpNeVnwjn" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:BgHt/wnSz9+vwMT72m6Idczp+pc= In-Reply-To: <a30a6e85a930898cac3f6d2c2ff9a6f2da74ea0c@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4053 On 8/12/2024 6:10 PM, joes wrote: > Am Mon, 12 Aug 2024 13:25:23 -0500 schrieb olcott: >> On 8/12/2024 1:16 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 8/12/24 1:32 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 8/12/2024 12:12 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> YOU don't understand the rules of the x86 code, or don't care if you >>>>> are wrong, as NOTHING in the x86 language allows the leaving of the >>>>> direct exectuion thread and into showing the code the simulator being >>>>> simulated is simulating. The ONLY correct answer is showing it doing >>>>> the simulating. >>>>> >>>> I showed the first four lines of this code highlighted in red and you >>>> ignored it. https://liarparadox.org/HHH(DDD)_Full_Trace.pdf >>> >>> No, you ignored my comments. >>> First, that isn't a trace generated by HHH emulating DDD, but by x86UTM >>> emulating HHH, so your claim is just a type error. >>> Then when I look at this emulation, we see that HHH *ONLY* emulates >>> those first 4 instructions of HHH and no more, >> That is counter factual. > It doesn't simulate the following call. > >>> that it doesn't simulate what happens in HHH after the jmp 000015e7 >>> instruction, and thus you claim is still a LIE. >> That is counter factual. > Where does it jump to? > Go look for yourself. >>> It says that you have HHH simulate the first *8* instructions of the >>> program DDD, and then stop doing a correct x86 emulation, and switches >>> to an INCORRECT functional emulation, since it doesn't note that this >>> emulation is CONDITIONAL. >>> >>>>> I HAVE pointed out the exact point you "correct emulation" deviates >>>>> from the x86 requirments, > and you only answer seems to be that the >>>>> x86 model of simulation gets too long. In other words, you logic >>>>> system allows people to just LIE if they want to. > -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer