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Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> Newsgroups: sci.logic,sci.math Subject: Re: Replacement of Cardinality (infinite middle) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 18:16:55 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: <v9e8lt$3h88i$1@dont-email.me> References: <hsRF8g6ZiIZRPFaWbZaL2jR1IiU@jntp> <IzWzFdkkm97GEXyAioF3IpRiSfI@jntp> <42d2b329-5394-47e0-b8c9-098908b2e9a8@att.net> <__cCn6h6Ey1Kz0BrIf6EShypg4M@jntp> <e8a3a66a-7d83-4658-9f4c-23d7dc354fb9@att.net> <iqelfxYKWhBbwcm10DcO5hr3scI@jntp> <f920592b-897c-48b9-a9af-80f25bc60e4b@att.net> <DDPks1ynTy6IhIWNHaxt25GM1v0@jntp> <c1f0efc8-04ca-4f2d-9820-cfd54c0eca73@att.net> <v90rp5$3dbpd$1@dont-email.me> <L8Pl0ELcnLfKVO0KrMmhSqDd-Y0@jntp> <v926ot$3tjq6$1@dont-email.me> <PbydnQO1H-qe_yj7nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> <v98ppi$ue8i$1@dont-email.me> <v98qeo$ul4c$1@dont-email.me> <v98qm3$ue8i$4@dont-email.me> <v98rnd$uuqh$1@dont-email.me> <f12f4cfb-5aff-4181-91c8-47b443455557@att.net> <bLicnfOhcMPjmCT7nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> <8639431c-c547-4651-9c4f-4264a02596e6@att.net> <v9dgbs$3d4fb$1@dont-email.me> <v9dkov$3dtmf$2@dont-email.me> <v9dle3$3dc99$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 02:17:01 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0d370383b5b11c432afa301f55f803b6"; logging-data="3711250"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/C0nHpGl9fpkss7By+qagKPhXFHpgRhPI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ACMqk/cSmCXNDwXEmXbzGlNY/0k= In-Reply-To: <v9dle3$3dc99$3@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 240812-14, 8/12/2024), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3670 On 8/12/2024 12:48 PM, Moebius wrote: > Am 12.08.2024 um 20:37 schrieb Jeff Barnett: >> On 8/12/2024 11:22 AM, Moebius wrote: >>> Am 12.08.2024 um 18:39 schrieb Jim Burns: >>> >>>> Cantor believed the continuum hypothesis to be true >>>> and tried for many years to prove it, in vain. >>> >>> Yeah, though today we are ably to "understand" (to a certain extend, >>> it seems) the (possibe) reasons fo t/his inability. >>> >>> But the question is by no means settled. >>> >>> See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ >>> Continuum_hypothesis#Arguments_for_and_against_the_continuum_hypothesis >> >> It will never be more settled than it is today. In ZF and it's >> variants you can take it or leave it as you probably well know. And it >> isn't going to be more settled than that. > > So you didn't follow the link? What a pitty. (->ignorance) Have you read "Zermelo's Axiom of Choice its origins, development, and influence" by Gregory H. Moore? It's now available in paperback so is affordable. I read it ages ago and it covers far far more than the wiki article you recommended. (I looked it over before my first response in this thread.) So should I call you ignorant by assuming you haven't read the book I recommend now? No, I have no idea how ignorant you are. On the other hand, your last message makes be think you are an arrogant little snot. If you actually think I missed something about a good definition of "settled", you should have defined the word as you seem to have a slightly nonstandard meaning. At this point don't bother - go back to tilting with trolls. -- Jeff Barnett