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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> Newsgroups: sci.logic,sci.math Subject: Re: Replacement of Cardinality Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 17:11:53 -0400 Organization: Peripheral Visions Lines: 34 Message-ID: <v9gi6t$2nm2$1@dont-email.me> References: <hsRF8g6ZiIZRPFaWbZaL2jR1IiU@jntp> <6c471296-90b8-4cf7-bc9b-480bd34ef190@att.net> <v93n0s$b7a2$4@dont-email.me> <1f25a3d6-7b0e-476d-aa99-ecb003cf763f@att.net> <b0XFTJvTommasLo9Ns10OeW0TN0@jntp> <75e2ce0e-7df8-4266-968b-9c58e4140b03@att.net> <RCAlRuRy_RKB_tYItKJs7fNcIs0@jntp> <35d8c0a1-dab3-4c15-8f24-068e8200cb07@att.net> <sglIw8p3PCeHivaAhg-7IVZCN4A@jntp> <c3b058c033321a59844da1fa46c5ac85a4b6566c@i2pn2.org> <mH8M1Rqfb7VYix0Wa0ZP-U89eG4@jntp> <v9g0br$3v7kj$1@dont-email.me> <v9gb89$1g5h$2@dont-email.me> <v9gbgq$1g5h$4@dont-email.me> Reply-To: erratic.howard@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 23:11:58 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6698fa79f1fdcf2fa677ac9f7076b321"; logging-data="89794"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19se21ULAznBkJIW48qMuu7ELsD3Nu86yc=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:I36toXvdXWGHdGPiCIrQE8TW7v4= X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-gb X-ICQ: 1701145376 Bytes: 2609 Chris M. Thomasson used his keyboard to write : > On 8/13/2024 12:13 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> On 8/13/2024 9:07 AM, FromTheRafters wrote: >>> WM used his keyboard to write : >>>> Le 12/08/2024 à 19:23, Richard Damon a écrit : >>>>> On 8/12/24 9:50 AM, WM wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> What causes an exception: nₓ ∈ ℕ: >>>>>>> ⅟nₓ > 0 without ⅟(nₓ+1) > 0 ? >>>>>> >>>>>> The end of the positive axis. >>>>> >>>>> Which, by the definition of the Natural Numbers, doesn't exist. >>>> >>>> The end of the positive axis exists. >>> >>> Right there where the negative axis begins? >> >> Ahh! Touche. :^D >> >> Well, lets say the real axis, or x axis if you will: >> >> (...)<--(-1)<--(-0+)-->(+1)-->(...) >> >> It's infinitely long... Notice the signed zero? lol. Fair enough? >> >> > > I consider zero to be the origin for any n-ary axes system. For 2d (0, 0), 3d > (0, 0, 0) for 4d (0, 0, 0, 0), 5d (0, 0, 0, 0, 0), ect, ect... ;^) I prefer the unsigned version. Sometimes the set of naturals is called the positive integers and the naturals with zero as non-negative integers.