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From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Pearls Before Swine: Rat The Luddite
Date: 15 Aug 2024 00:21:40 -0000
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Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
>Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
>>He is explicitly including milk and juice, suggesting we go back to
>>glass.
>>
>>Which is fine, so long as, when I drop one on the floor and it breaks,
>>he comes over, cleans up the mess, and gives me my money back.
>
>Why should I pay for your clumsiness?

Returnable glass bottles with a deposit on them don't turn into litter.
And if they should turn into litter, kids will collect them to reclaim them.

And, in the modern age where gorilla glass is not expensive to make any
longer, the issue of breakage should be a non-issue.  (In the past, of
course, reusable bottles were made thick enough to be very hard to break,
witness returnable coca-cola bottles as an example.  But gorilla glass 
can make them thinner and cheaper to transport.)

>The Trader Joes produce bags are biodegradable.

The biodegradable plastic bags usually are starch and an unstable 
vinyl polymer.  The idea is kind of cool, but don't expect to use them
for long term storage.  I have kept electronic parts in grocery bags
to discover the bags were disintegrating in my cabinets.
--scott
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