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On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 10:49:23 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

>What I find so strange about that is that in many european countries, 
>there already are laws which make it easy to confiscate private property 
>without due process such as cars and boats, for traffic and fishing 
>crimes.

Monkey See, Monkey Do effect...politicians do the same thing in US
States.  One state creates a law or a change in an existing law, and
other states may imitate it.

>without due process such as cars and boats,...

Each US State makes their own laws, and around 1970s/1980s, they were
passing laws like this for drug violations.  Today, and I assume then,
there were publications available for elected officials that have
topics related to what's happening at state/federal levels.

> He could of course declare tomorrow "mission accomplished"
> and the public would just shrug their shoulders

I assume the public reaction there would be somewhat similiar to US's
public reaction, but skewed.  Many US citizens don't follow the news,
and many Russians are clueless (due to false news)

>He must win to remain a strong and credible leader.

If Ukraine can maintain a stalemate situation, I can't perceive of a
solution if he must "win."

>what everyone is deadly afraid of is to open the legal possibility
>in europe of confiscating assets from your political enemies 
>without due process. 

Duquesne Law ReviewDuquesne Law Review
Volume 4 Number 1 Article 14
1965
The Legality of Nuremberg

Twenty years have now passed and still the controversy continues as
to whether or not the trials at Nuremberg were in compliance with
inter-national law. Although the trials of the major war criminals are
now left to the historian, they are still of great importance to the
formulation of present international law and are therefore of great
interest to the legal profession. Throughout the history of man war
has plagued our society. At no time prior to the adoption of the
Charter of the International Military Tribunal did the creation of war
constitute a crime. The basic problem faced by Nuremberg was whether
or not the Allies could make the creation of war a crime. In order to
answer this question it must first be ascertained whether or not the
Allies had jurisdiction to prescribe a mandate of this nature and,
secondly, whether or not they had jurisdiction to enforce that
mandate.
https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/327126335.pdf