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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: HHH maps its input to the behavior specified by it --- never reaches its halt state --- Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2024 10:19:59 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: <v9l6av$10ae5$3@dont-email.me> References: <v8jh7m$30k55$1@dont-email.me> <v8n6mq$3tv07$3@dont-email.me> <v8o14v$30uf$1@dont-email.me> <950d4eed7965040e841a970d48d5b6f417ff43dc@i2pn2.org> <v8oj1n$6kik$3@dont-email.me> <v8pvke$ih0a$1@dont-email.me> <4-qdnbdw1JzlRS37nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> <v8v7p3$29r2r$1@dont-email.me> <v8vub1$32fso$14@dont-email.me> <1e1fa9bc4bbc00aa65c1a7974bd1bda87687c92b@i2pn2.org> <v90di8$38oni$1@dont-email.me> <47a76378d634bf0db4017f879d0160793b57125e@i2pn2.org> <v9161o$3gaju$1@dont-email.me> <b84374e766c199e1ba38ef1dc3bc8f6ab2c39dfc@i2pn2.org> <v91i97$3n4m0$1@dont-email.me> <v91unh$3rbor$1@dont-email.me> <v92gja$p1$3@dont-email.me> <v94m0l$ljf4$1@dont-email.me> <v95ae9$p5rb$1@dont-email.me> <v978dv$h1ib$1@dont-email.me> <v97j0q$ilah$2@dont-email.me> <v99lpd$25ri3$1@dont-email.me> <v9a88e$2923f$2@dont-email.me> <v9fer8$3rv02$1@dont-email.me> <v9fmkv$3ta4u$1@dont-email.me> <v9hn2f$ca0f$1@dont-email.me> <v9ich5$f16v$7@dont-email.me> <v9kfjq$tb8f$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2024 17:20:00 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b70e3e79cdddcca7f32bbdda15810b8e"; logging-data="1059269"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18Llf04KT2vVLllUq3IFg3N" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:G04c5KPHUW7wTcgSWkEmw74Ewvs= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v9kfjq$tb8f$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3389 On 8/15/2024 3:52 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-08-14 13:47:16 +0000, olcott said: > >> >> _DDD() >> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) >> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >> [00002183] c3 ret >> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >> >> The impossibility of DDD emulated by HHH >> (according to the semantics of the x86 language) >> to reach its own machine address [00002183] is >> compete proof. > > No, it is not. Nothing is a proof except a proof. > An inductive proof of the execution trace shows that DDD emulated according to the semantics of the x86 language cannot possibly reach machine address 00002183. If you are form over substance kind of guy then I ask you to provide the substance of every detail of the execution trace of DDD emulated according to the semantics of the x86 language that reaches machine address 00002183. A failure to do this would seem to either admit that you are wrong or admit that you don't understand these things well enough. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer