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From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: RE: Re: Some bicycle paths...
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On 8/15/2024 1:02 PM, cyclintom wrote:
> On Sun Jul 28 06:44:51 2024 zen cycle  wrote:
>> On 7/27/2024 8:50 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 7/27/2024 5:56 AM, zen cycle wrote:
>>>> On 7/26/2024 7:27 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>> On 7/26/2024 4:56 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 15:01:17 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/26/2024 1:06 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 11:34:01 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/26/2024 9:50 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I believe that modern small firearms have made the USA a safer
>>>>>>>>>> place
>>>>>>>>>> to live. What other way does a 80 year old woman who lives alone to
>>>>>>>>>> protect herself. Before small firearms, anyone who was unable to
>>>>>>>>>> swing
>>>>>>>>>> a sword, a lance, or a fist was vulnerable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> IIRC, comparative data shows citizens in Canada, Britain, France,
>>>>>>>>> Germany, etc. etc. etc. are far safer in their homes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If that's true, and I'm not convinced that it is, it's most likely
>>>>>>>> because the USA has more criminals, as verified by the number of
>>>>>>>> prisons in the USA. Therefore, guns provide protection from them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The reasons we have more criminals is another argument I won't get in
>>>>>>>> to right now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :-) A cowardly retreat!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's from the guy who suggests simply having a gun in your home is
>>>>>> dangerous.
>>>>>
>>>>> Posted by a man without the courage to quote me directly. What I
>>>>> actually posted was data, and links to data.
>>>>>
>>>>>> But, the fact that the USA has more criminals is a result of
>>>>>> disastrous liberal nanny government policies.
>>>>>
>>>>> :-) So much imagination, so little intellect!
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> What an unmitigated load of horseshit from that dumbass.
>>>>
>>>> I don't suppose he would care to share any data showing countries with
>>>> liberal 'nanny' state policies have higher crime?
>>>>
>>>> Of course not! Why would that be?
>>>>
>>>> Well how about
>>>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/262962/countries-with-the-most-prisoners-per-100-000-inhabitants/
>>>>
>>>> US has the 6th highest incarceration rate in the world. All those
>>>> disgusting european nanny states don't even make this list of the top 30.
>>>>
>>>> How about the most peaceful countries in the world?
>>>> https://www.economicsandpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/GPI-2024-web.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Notice anything? yup, all those disgusting liberal nanny states top
>>>> the list with france an outlier at #86. The US? #132.
>>>>
>>>> Want more? How about european murder rates?
>>>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/1268504/homicide-rate-europe-country/
>>>>
>>>> OF those disgusting liberal nanny states, Belgium tops the list at
>>>> 1.54. The US?
>>>>
>>>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/191223/reported-murder-and-nonnegligent-manslaughter-rate-in-the-us-since-1990/
>>>>
>>>> 6.3
>>>>
>>>> fer fucks sake...that dumbass is as bad at kunich with flinging his
>>>> shit onto the keyboard and calling it "facts"
>>>>
>>>> What was it Andrew said? oh yeah..."ideology is resistant to data"
>>>
>>> You may not be measuring what you think you're measuring.
>>
>> You (and the dumbass) might be grasping at straws because your ideology
>> is not supported by real world data, history, and experience
>>
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> 
> 
> 
> I've been riding a lot longer than you

Not buyin' it. Do you have proof of racing back in the 80's? I do. Any 
claims you make are "undocumented bragging".

> and more miles per year.

Which doesn't impress me. There's miles, and there's quality. I prefer 
quality. When you can do a 60 mile ride on a fixed-gear, maybe we'll 
have a conversation.

https://www.strava.com/activities/4986803455

Until then you're just an old asshole who happens to ride a bike.

Besides that, what does your yearly mileage have to do with 
incarceration rates in Social Democracies? Answer: absolutely nothing 
other than to show that you have no capacity to put together a rational 
argument on the issue.

> But go ahead and pretend that you know something about anything you paperwork geek.

I know vastly more than you on vastly more subjects - Amazing Facts(TM) 
from the alternative physical universe of Tommyworld notwithstanding.

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