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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.logic,sci.math Subject: Re: Replacement of Cardinality Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 02:03:26 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <v9m50e$14adg$9@dont-email.me> References: <hsRF8g6ZiIZRPFaWbZaL2jR1IiU@jntp> <75e2ce0e-7df8-4266-968b-9c58e4140b03@att.net> <RCAlRuRy_RKB_tYItKJs7fNcIs0@jntp> <35d8c0a1-dab3-4c15-8f24-068e8200cb07@att.net> <sglIw8p3PCeHivaAhg-7IVZCN4A@jntp> <c3b058c033321a59844da1fa46c5ac85a4b6566c@i2pn2.org> <mH8M1Rqfb7VYix0Wa0ZP-U89eG4@jntp> <4412ba58-855f-401d-9fd0-879d5cb50062@att.net> <CYrSgRVL0Y9qT9pbZDtRgAv0Juo@jntp> <219eed30-9918-4759-9b7e-826088fc91c9@att.net> <xisJXSuqF8w8nqMJNrXzPaSyU-4@jntp> <a2f6c659-4326-4cc6-b4df-0720ab07e61d@att.net> <v9lle5$12mrh$1@dont-email.me> <0aae40c7-1092-4b12-99dc-290aa5a94021@att.net> <v9m17l$14adh$1@dont-email.me> <v9m3c0$14e6v$4@dont-email.me> <v9m3j6$14adh$6@dont-email.me> Reply-To: invalid@example.invalid MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 02:03:26 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8de5541c6b599521b97afbd172dfb739"; logging-data="1190320"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18S+1Iekd86PVgwfwwfEIlY" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:fgNHH+Cv1SBl/zph+9rCxtLsPHU= In-Reply-To: <v9m3j6$14adh$6@dont-email.me> Content-Language: de-DE Bytes: 2983 Am 16.08.2024 um 01:39 schrieb Moebius: > Am 16.08.2024 um 01:35 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson: >> On 8/15/2024 3:59 PM, Moebius wrote: >>> Am 16.08.2024 um 00:51 schrieb Jim Burns: >>>> On 8/15/2024 3:37 PM, Moebius wrote: >>>>> Am 15.08.2024 um 21:28 schrieb Jim Burns: >>>> >>>>>> Defining ⅟𝔊 to be the smallest unit fraction >>>>>> isn't a claim that ⅟𝔊 exists. >>>>> >>>>> You need an existence proof [...] >>>>> BEFORE stating a/the proper definition. >>>> >>>> Proving that [a unique] mimsy borogove exist[s] >>>> before defining [the] mimsy borogove >>>> seems like a pretty steep hill to climb. >>> >>> No mater what you think, in math we HAVE TO climb this hill, and we do. >>> >>>> That's a hill which I doubt we need to climb. >>> >>> Fuck you, asshole. Want't to be the the next crank in sci.math? >>> (After all the other cranks have left?) >> >> Wrt sqrt(2), afaict anytime we create a unit square, we have the >> sqrt(2) in all of its irrational infinite glory as a diagonal. > > Right. In the context of geometry [...] Actually, we see/know that there is a "diagonal" of a unit square, but its length and and the length 1 are "incommensurable". See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commensurability_(mathematics)