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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> Newsgroups: sci.logic,sci.math Subject: Re: Replacement of Cardinality Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 06:08:19 -0400 Organization: Peripheral Visions Lines: 30 Message-ID: <v9n8ep$1d89t$1@dont-email.me> References: <hsRF8g6ZiIZRPFaWbZaL2jR1IiU@jntp> <75e2ce0e-7df8-4266-968b-9c58e4140b03@att.net> <RCAlRuRy_RKB_tYItKJs7fNcIs0@jntp> <35d8c0a1-dab3-4c15-8f24-068e8200cb07@att.net> <sglIw8p3PCeHivaAhg-7IVZCN4A@jntp> <c3b058c033321a59844da1fa46c5ac85a4b6566c@i2pn2.org> <mH8M1Rqfb7VYix0Wa0ZP-U89eG4@jntp> <4412ba58-855f-401d-9fd0-879d5cb50062@att.net> <CYrSgRVL0Y9qT9pbZDtRgAv0Juo@jntp> <219eed30-9918-4759-9b7e-826088fc91c9@att.net> <xisJXSuqF8w8nqMJNrXzPaSyU-4@jntp> <a2f6c659-4326-4cc6-b4df-0720ab07e61d@att.net> <v9lle5$12mrh$1@dont-email.me> <0aae40c7-1092-4b12-99dc-290aa5a94021@att.net> <v9m17l$14adh$1@dont-email.me> <v9m3c0$14e6v$4@dont-email.me> Reply-To: erratic.howard@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 12:08:26 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e43ddc74ddf48e5f418fb7246cba929f"; logging-data="1483069"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+WjW6EsNSkC67yqeUVFE5d2tvSfvwKFJ0=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:5JLU4+7UzH9QxlND/oyzAHKm2Ts= X-ICQ: 1701145376 X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-gb Bytes: 2786 on 8/15/2024, Chris M. Thomasson supposed : > On 8/15/2024 3:59 PM, Moebius wrote: >> Am 16.08.2024 um 00:51 schrieb Jim Burns: >>> On 8/15/2024 3:37 PM, Moebius wrote: >>>> Am 15.08.2024 um 21:28 schrieb Jim Burns: >>> >>>>> Defining ⅟? to be the smallest unit fraction >>>>> isn't a claim that ⅟? exists. >>>> >>>> You need an existence proof [...] >>>> BEFORE stating a/the proper definition. >>> >>> Proving that [a unique] mimsy borogove exist[s] >>> before defining [the] mimsy borogove >>> seems like a pretty steep hill to climb. >> >> No mater what you think, in math we HAVE TO climb this hill, and we do. >> >>> That's a hill which I doubt we need to climb. >> >> Fuck you, asshole. Want't to be the the next crank in sci.math? (After all >> the other cranks have left?) > > Wrt sqrt(2), afaict anytime we create a unit square, we have the sqrt(2) in > all of its irrational infinite glory as a diagonal. Every time we 'create' a circle we have Pi as a transcendental number too. That is not the same as having a mathematical system to work with irrational and/or transcendental numbers in Q, so we imagined R to fill the 'gaps' in Q and we're golden.