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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: key error in all the proofs --- Correction of Fred
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 13:04:38 -0500
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On 8/16/2024 12:54 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 8/16/24 1:11 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 8/16/2024 11:47 AM, joes wrote:
>>> Am Fri, 16 Aug 2024 10:07:08 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>> On 8/16/2024 9:59 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>> Am Fri, 16 Aug 2024 09:42:13 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>> On 8/16/2024 9:28 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/16/24 10:09 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/16/2024 8:34 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-08-16 12:02:00 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unless an unlimited emulation of DDD by HHH can reach the "return"
>>>>>>>> instruction of DDD it is construed that this instance of DDD never
>>>>>>>> halts.
>>>>>>> But that also construes that HHH is a program that DOES an unlimited
>>>>>>> emulation of DDD, and thus isn't a decider
>>>>>> Not at all. never has.
>>>>> Yes, because DDD is defined to call its simulator. If you change the
>>>>> simulator to abort, you also change the simulated HHH. Nobody cares
>>>>> about HHH aborting a pure simulator.
>>>
>>>>>> HHH must predict what the behavior of an unlimited simulation would
>>>>>> be.
>>>>> The HHH that aborts must predict what DDD calling an aborting HHH does
>>>> NOT AT ALL, NEVER HAS.
>>>> PREDICT WHAT THE BEHAVIOR WOULD BE
>>>> IF IT WAS AN UNLIMITED EMULATION
>>> Yes, an unlimited simulation of an aborting HHH. 
>>
>> Prediction of behavior of unlimited emulation
>> means prediction of behavior that never aborts.
>>
> 
> Right, but the unlimited emulation of the DDD that calls the HHH that 
> says non-halting will reach a final state.
> 

I think that you are just twisting my words again.

_DDD()
[00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002173] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
[0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d         pop ebp
[00002183] c3         ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]

The unlimited emulation of DDD by HHH never stops running.


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