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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: Proof that DDD specifies non-halting behavior --- reviewers
 disagree with basic facts
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 17:56:58 -0500
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On 8/16/2024 5:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 8/16/24 6:20 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 8/16/2024 5:11 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 8/16/24 5:58 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 8/16/2024 4:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 8/16/24 5:08 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/16/2024 3:54 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/16/24 4:36 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I break my points down to the basic facts of the semantics
>>>>>>>> of the x86 language and the basic facts of the semantics
>>>>>>>> of the C programming.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can't ever get to the point of the computer science
>>>>>>>> because reviewers disagree with these basic facts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, the problem is that your "facts" just disagree with the 
>>>>>>> computere science you claim to be doing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We never get anywhere near the computer science because
>>>>>> people disagree with 100% concrete fully specified semantics.
>>>>>> If they disagree with arithmetic we can never get to algebra.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you aren't talking about computer science, then you are using a 
>>>>> lot of words FROM computer science, which bring in their implications.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I get to the computer science only after people
>>>> agree to basic facts. When they refuse to agree
>>>> with these basis facts I write them off as dishonest
>>>> or insufficiently competent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Since your "Basic facts" include terms from Computer Science,
>>
>> If you insist on disagreeing with the x86
>> language that proves you are dishonest.
>>
> 
> Where do I disagree with the x86 language?
> 

*Until you agree with this I will consider you as a liar*
*Until you agree with this I will consider you as a liar*
*Until you agree with this I will consider you as a liar*

void DDD()
{
   HHH(DDD);
}

_DDD()
[00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002173] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
[0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d         pop ebp
[00002183] c3         ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]

*It is a basic fact that DDD emulated by HHH according to*
*the semantics of the x86 language cannot possibly stop*
*running unless aborted*



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