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On 8/16/2024 8:40 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
> On 16 Aug 2024 13:12:30 GMT, Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2024-08-16, Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>> On 8/15/2024 8:51 PM, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
>>>> In article <v9jkhg$lr5i$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Dimensional Traveler  <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>> Project 2025, written by Christian Nationalists many of whom were in the
>>>>> Trump administration and expect to be there again.
>>>>
>>>> Project 2025 was written by the Heritage Foundation several years
>>>> ago.  (2019, I think?)  Calling the Heritage Foundation "Christian
>>>> Nationalists" makes the term a useless meaningless devil-word
>>>> that means nothing more than you disagree with them.
>>>>
>>> They call _themselves_ Christian Nationalists.
>>>
>>> "Project 2025 Co-Author Says It's Time to ‘Rehabilitate' Christian
>>> Nationalism"
>>>
>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/project-2025-co-author-says-it-s-time-to-rehabilitate-christian-nationalism/ar-AA1oSs7k?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=cb712e533c4749269f3e699f1e009df8&ei=33
>>
>> No, they do not call _themselves_ Christian Nationalists.  A couple of
>> them are, including the person quoted in your article (one of 35+
>> authors) but that doesn't mean the project is.  That's just like
>> saying the Democrats are all socialists because Bernie Sanders has a
>> hand in some of their positions.  Most articles about it are just
>> political liberal fear-mongering.
>>
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/07/08/project-2025-trump-election/
>>     A tight focus on Trump’s agenda is all the more necessary, some
>>     Democrats said, amid turmoil over their ticket. One Democratic
>>     strategist close to the Biden campaign, who spoke on the condition
>>     of anonymity to speak frankly, said Democrats need to do something
>>     that, in their view, Republicans have usually done more
>>     effectively: “Instill fear in the American people.”
>>
>> I've only read a bit of it, but it's a hodge-podge of conservative
>> positions from many sources, some positions reasonable and some of
>> them objectionable.  There's some 35 authors, over 300 contributors,
>> over 60 conservative groups.  As far as I can tell, Jesus or Christ is
>> not mentioned at all anywhere in its 900+ pages.
>>
>> Very little of it is new, just a collection of conservative thought and
>> wishlists, ranging from mainstream conservatism to way out there.  It is not a
>> coherent collection!
> 
> I haven't bothered to read it because it was clear to me from the
> first descriptions (which focused on identifying and vetting Trump
> appointees) what it was: Trump's buddies doing what he /should/ have
> been doing in 2016 -- preparing for the transition. As you may recall,
> it took Trump a while to get going because he didn't prepare. Well,
> this time he may be prepared. If he pays attention to his buddies,
> that is.
> 
> Prepared but still incoherent and weird. And, if anything, less
> effective than before as a result.
> 
> And who ever said Chrstian Nationalism had anything to do with Jesus
> Christ, who clearly stated that his kingdom is /not/ of this world?

I believe it was in that article I posted a link to but one of the heads 
of the Heritage Foundation flat out says it is them getting ready to 
handle Trump's transition if he wins because they know he won't prepare 
and they can just move in and set everything up themselves.

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I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky 
dirty old man.