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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: cyclists attack auto driver Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 21:08:53 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 29 Message-ID: <v9ot76$1kbqe$3@dont-email.me> References: <natpbjpflimtqa3k1p3dfrmkkd27ih9l0r@4ax.com> <bkiqbjlutis6dcl8ika0t0i8l70125sa18@4ax.com> <aklrbjl45g43p45kdur66099751466pmfi@4ax.com> <v9ktff$3t7dn$6@dont-email.me> <v9l5dh$10a85$1@dont-email.me> <427sbjpl85qb9v28m4s8ihqj335so892n9@4ax.com> <v9l8ud$10n7l$2@dont-email.me> <o4csbjdtu8t99sjjeeijjshjs17ko4miln@4ax.com> <v9ldee$10n7m$7@dont-email.me> <v9ldkv$11ai1$2@dont-email.me> <uefubjl289nishqcq5eqdeqdj0vj0rt7t6@4ax.com> <v9o65q$1h8t3$1@dont-email.me> <0ibvbjtnogf47avmn1v8rj5sf94g9corum@4ax.com> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 03:08:54 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fd8ad49e23d74903e61335a87ca39e9d"; logging-data="1716046"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19CgqieWJyaq70ieg0kzmoJWu+19uycLgU=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:dOBmotDzuaQNRdeeVRfP0FtThOI= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <0ibvbjtnogf47avmn1v8rj5sf94g9corum@4ax.com> Bytes: 2964 On 8/16/2024 3:59 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: > > Krygowski has yet to comprehend the simple fact that benefits and > detriments are subjective. Benefits and detriments can very often be measured. The benefits of bicycling have been measured in terms of increased health, reduced health care costs, years of life saved, pollution reduced, etc. etc. I've seen and filed at least five studies that have done that, each one showing that the benefits of bicycling far outweigh its tiny risks. The detriments of American gun craziness can also be measured. As just one example, huge numbers of schools now hire full time security guards in case some whacko with an AR attempts to enter the building. The buildings themselves are now often "hardened," with various weapon detecting and weapon resisting technologies. That was never the case until the current gun mania came into fashion; and taxpayers pick up the bill for that extra security - as they do for advanced protective equipment for most policing. So we all pay for the gun fetishists fantasy hobby. It would make sense to levy a massive tax on every gun with, say, more than 6 rounds capacity, to pay for the security expenses they generate. But of course, the "Gotta have a big gun" crew is also the "No new taxes" crew. They want others to pay for their play toys' consequences. -- - Frank Krygowski