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Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!maths.tcd.ie!usenet.csail.mit.edu!nntp.TheWorld.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: yes! Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 21:48:16 -0400 Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Lines: 58 Message-ID: <v9ovh2$rm8$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> References: <2ugqbjhvlh9vrlmqhciaubcf64dbooph0o@4ax.com> <v9lp74$13417$1@dont-email.me> <p1usbj1jtg5st9ahr544q5pajc98o9vqsn@4ax.com> <v9oaok$g5h$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <6rivbjdvddv1ij3qt51r0mj4vluf60akp2@4ax.com> Injection-Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 01:48:18 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="28360"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" Cancel-Lock: sha1:6rxwHO2kToWnAq3DMNWXcm0CQ3c= sha256:NJyA8VAsb1JDX9HBq5i+7z8VGPxqaEVqMPVZ3ISSs70= sha1:j475A71CbYsq4wpceyvtqAM9M2o= sha256:GJEBByPXeBDQnkkPclpP6cALeTUTEv7fC0fol8Qbo7I= X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-Priority: 3 "john larkin" <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote in message news:6rivbjdvddv1ij3qt51r0mj4vluf60akp2@4ax.com... > On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 15:53:55 -0400, "Edward Rawde" > <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >>"john larkin" <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote in message news:p1usbj1jtg5st9ahr544q5pajc98o9vqsn@4ax.com... >>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 21:42:12 +0100, Martin Brown >>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>>On 15/08/2024 00:55, john larkin wrote: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a61854962/quantum-entanglement-consciousness/ >>>> >>>>Popular Mechanics is *such* a reputable source of cutting edge QM theory. >>> >>> It's a news site. It links to a physics journal article. >>> >>> Is Physics Review E contaminated by a link from PM? >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>>When they publish it in Nature or somewhere reputable I'll take note. >>>>They already seem to have grumbled to New Scientist about being dissed. >>>> >>>>A hypothesis has to survive experimental testing to be at all credible. >>>>If they are right then you should be able to alter consciousness by >>>>flooding the interior of the brain with incoherent IR photons. Somehow I >>>>can't see that working at all. >>>> >>>>Quantum entanglement may be all the rage now but it is likely to be just >>>>another variant of the "action at a distance" in Newtonian gravity that >>>>will disappear once we have a complete grand unified theory of physics. >>>> >>>>So far it looks like consciousness is an emergent property of any >>>>sufficiently complex computational network. The big super computer >>>>networks are now getting close to the threshold where that might happen. > > There must be over 10 billion smartphones and computers all networked > now. Be very afraid. > >>> >>> It's just code. >> >>What are you going to say when a conversation you can have with a computer is indistinguishable from a human? >>That it's just code and therefore behaves like a conscious entity but isn't really?? >> >>> >> > > If it's a state machine, a cpu running code, it can only pretend to be > conscious. But you are talking to me over a digital communication channel which requires a pattern of bits. How do you know I'm conscious and not just a state machine with n bits and an n bit memory? >