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On 8/17/2024 6:57 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 22:32:14 -0400, Frank Krygowski
> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 8/16/2024 10:18 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 8/16/2024 8:08 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>> On 8/16/2024 3:59 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Krygowski has yet to comprehend the simple fact that benefits and
>>>>> detriments are subjective.
>>>>
>>>> Benefits and detriments can very often be measured. The benefits of
>>>> bicycling have been measured in terms of increased health, reduced
>>>> health care costs, years of life saved, pollution reduced, etc. etc.
>>>> I've seen and filed at least five studies that have done that, each
>>>> one showing that the benefits of bicycling far outweigh its tiny risks.
>>>>
>>>> The detriments of American gun craziness can also be measured. As just
>>>> one example, huge numbers of schools now hire full time security
>>>> guards in case some whacko with an AR attempts to enter the building.
>>>> The buildings themselves are now often "hardened," with various weapon
>>>> detecting and weapon resisting technologies. That was never the case
>>>> until the current gun mania came into fashion; and taxpayers pick up
>>>> the bill for that extra security - as they do for advanced protective
>>>> equipment for most policing. So we all pay for the gun fetishists
>>>> fantasy hobby.
>>>>
>>>> It would make sense to levy a massive tax on every gun with, say, more
>>>> than 6 rounds capacity, to pay for the security expenses they
>>>> generate. But of course, the "Gotta have a big gun" crew is also the
>>>> "No new taxes" crew. They want others to pay for their play toys'
>>>> consequences.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> They can indeed be measured but only within preselected parameters,
>>> which are subjective.
>>>
>>> 'What's important?' is the first question.
>> Are you saying that increased spending of public funds are not
>> important? Really?
> 
> Another dishonest Krygowski strawman argument...

Another dumbass misunderstand of "straw man"