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From: zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: cyclists attack auto driver
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 07:56:42 -0400
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On 8/17/2024 7:07 AM, floriduh dumbass wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 07:01:33 -0400, zen cycle
> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 8/17/2024 6:57 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>> On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 22:32:14 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/16/2024 10:18 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>> On 8/16/2024 8:08 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/16/2024 3:59 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Krygowski has yet to comprehend the simple fact that benefits and
>>>>>>> detriments are subjective.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Benefits and detriments can very often be measured. The benefits of
>>>>>> bicycling have been measured in terms of increased health, reduced
>>>>>> health care costs, years of life saved, pollution reduced, etc. etc.
>>>>>> I've seen and filed at least five studies that have done that, each
>>>>>> one showing that the benefits of bicycling far outweigh its tiny risks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The detriments of American gun craziness can also be measured. As just
>>>>>> one example, huge numbers of schools now hire full time security
>>>>>> guards in case some whacko with an AR attempts to enter the building.
>>>>>> The buildings themselves are now often "hardened," with various weapon
>>>>>> detecting and weapon resisting technologies. That was never the case
>>>>>> until the current gun mania came into fashion; and taxpayers pick up
>>>>>> the bill for that extra security - as they do for advanced protective
>>>>>> equipment for most policing. So we all pay for the gun fetishists
>>>>>> fantasy hobby.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would make sense to levy a massive tax on every gun with, say, more
>>>>>> than 6 rounds capacity, to pay for the security expenses they
>>>>>> generate. But of course, the "Gotta have a big gun" crew is also the
>>>>>> "No new taxes" crew. They want others to pay for their play toys'
>>>>>> consequences.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They can indeed be measured but only within preselected parameters,
>>>>> which are subjective.
>>>>>
>>>>> 'What's important?' is the first question.
>>>> Are you saying that increased spending of public funds are not
>>>> important? Really?
>>>
>>> Another dishonest Krygowski strawman argument...
>>
>> Another dumbass misunderstand of "straw man"
> 
> Straw man fallacy is the distortion of someone else’s argument to make
> it easier to attack or refute. Instead of addressing the actual
> argument of the opponent, one may present a somewhat similar but not
> equal argument.
> https://www.scribbr.com/fallacies/straw-man-fallacy/

cutting and pasting is not an indication that you understand the 
concept, dumbass, and you very clearly don't.

"Are you saying that increased spending of public funds are not
  important?"

is not a straw man argument.