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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 10:09:01 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Message-ID: <v9qeed$1tedb$12@dont-email.me> References: <v9q52r$1tedb$1@dont-email.me> <867e1149d7291cfd965b6974aa22f104635f38aa@i2pn2.org> <v9qdre$1tedb$11@dont-email.me> <d0755e4d97f2c3caebf57ebc856ed8078be3c7dd@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 17:09:01 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5c4a0c817977c3965e873c4f304e2b88"; logging-data="2013611"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+6FZygsh3Zmq2BlgJQxqwJ" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:77EwRiijvhjnZQenxBhXoLaszw4= In-Reply-To: <d0755e4d97f2c3caebf57ebc856ed8078be3c7dd@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2653 On 8/17/2024 10:06 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 8/17/24 10:58 AM, olcott wrote: >> On 8/17/2024 9:10 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 8/17/24 8:29 AM, olcott wrote: >>>> void DDD() >>>> { >>>> HHH(DDD); >>>> } >>>> >>>> _DDD() >>>> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) >>>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >>>> [00002183] c3 ret >>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >>>> >>>> *It is a basic fact that DDD emulated by HHH according to* >>>> *the semantics of the x86 language cannot possibly stop* >>>> *running unless aborted* (out of memory error excluded) >>>> >>> >>> No, anyone saying that the above is something that CAN be correctly >>> emulated by the semantics of the x86 language is just a LIAR. >>> >> >> You are inserting a word that I did not say. >> > > To say that DDD is emulated by HHH means that it must be possible to > validly do that act. > You are not going to get very far with any claim that emulating a sequence of x86 machine-code bytes is impossible. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer