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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 12:24:34 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 68 Message-ID: <v9qmci$1tedb$23@dont-email.me> References: <v9q52r$1tedb$1@dont-email.me> <867e1149d7291cfd965b6974aa22f104635f38aa@i2pn2.org> <v9qdre$1tedb$11@dont-email.me> <d0755e4d97f2c3caebf57ebc856ed8078be3c7dd@i2pn2.org> <v9qeed$1tedb$12@dont-email.me> <116cb41843f55511cf8fa5c2216083136e50c976@i2pn2.org> <v9qg05$1tedb$14@dont-email.me> <b8d7322ff586ee2776ced1a09090df787d889791@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 19:24:34 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5c4a0c817977c3965e873c4f304e2b88"; logging-data="2013611"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX187HWn3ohHm3xG7a7be4AyK" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:jjdbJWVfmB2sJvGzZrzImeUQYkc= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <b8d7322ff586ee2776ced1a09090df787d889791@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 3722 On 8/17/2024 11:16 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 8/17/24 11:35 AM, olcott wrote: >> On 8/17/2024 10:30 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 8/17/24 11:09 AM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 8/17/2024 10:06 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 8/17/24 10:58 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 8/17/2024 9:10 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>> On 8/17/24 8:29 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> void DDD() >>>>>>>> { >>>>>>>> HHH(DDD); >>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _DDD() >>>>>>>> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>>>>>>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>>>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>>>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) >>>>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>>>>>>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >>>>>>>> [00002183] c3 ret >>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *It is a basic fact that DDD emulated by HHH according to* >>>>>>>> *the semantics of the x86 language cannot possibly stop* >>>>>>>> *running unless aborted* (out of memory error excluded) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, anyone saying that the above is something that CAN be >>>>>>> correctly emulated by the semantics of the x86 language is just a >>>>>>> LIAR. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You are inserting a word that I did not say. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To say that DDD is emulated by HHH means that it must be possible >>>>> to validly do that act. >>>>> >>>> >>>> You are not going to get very far with any claim that >>>> emulating a sequence of x86 machine-code bytes is impossible. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> How do you emulate dthe CALL HHH instruction without the code that >>> follows? >>> >>> Who is the silly one now? >>> >> >> No it has moved up to a ridiculous and utterly >> baseless false assumption that is directly contradicted >> by the verified fact that x86utm takes Halt7.obj as >> its input data, thus having all of the machine code >> of HHH directly available to DDD. >> > > And thus, ALL of memory is the "input" and thus any change in it renders > that answer possibly different. > There are no other words that can be added to my words that change the immutable fact of my words. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer