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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 12:24:34 -0500
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On 8/17/2024 11:16 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 8/17/24 11:35 AM, olcott wrote:
>> On 8/17/2024 10:30 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 8/17/24 11:09 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 8/17/2024 10:06 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 8/17/24 10:58 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/17/2024 9:10 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/17/24 8:29 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> void DDD()
>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>    HHH(DDD);
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _DDD()
>>>>>>>> [00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>>>>>> [00002173] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>>>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
>>>>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04
>>>>>>>> [00002182] 5d         pop ebp
>>>>>>>> [00002183] c3         ret
>>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *It is a basic fact that DDD emulated by HHH according to*
>>>>>>>> *the semantics of the x86 language cannot possibly stop*
>>>>>>>> *running unless aborted* (out of memory error excluded)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, anyone saying that the above is something that CAN be 
>>>>>>> correctly emulated by the semantics of the x86 language is just a 
>>>>>>> LIAR.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are inserting a word that I did not say.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To say that DDD is emulated by HHH means that it must be possible 
>>>>> to validly do that act.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are not going to get very far with any claim that
>>>> emulating a sequence of x86 machine-code bytes is impossible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> How do you emulate dthe CALL HHH instruction without the code that 
>>> follows?
>>>
>>> Who is the silly one now?
>>>
>>
>> No it has moved up to a ridiculous and utterly
>> baseless false assumption that is directly contradicted
>> by the verified fact that x86utm takes Halt7.obj as
>> its input data, thus having all of the machine code
>> of HHH directly available to DDD.
>>
> 
> And thus, ALL of memory is the "input" and thus any change in it renders 
> that answer possibly different.
> 

There are no other words that can be added to my
words that change the immutable fact of my words.

-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer