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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Anyone that claims this is not telling the truth
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 12:42:54 -0500
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On 8/17/2024 12:36 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 8/17/24 1:24 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 8/17/2024 11:16 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 8/17/24 11:35 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 8/17/2024 10:30 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 8/17/24 11:09 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/17/2024 10:06 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/17/24 10:58 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/17/2024 9:10 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8/17/24 8:29 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> void DDD()
>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>    HHH(DDD);
>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _DDD()
>>>>>>>>>> [00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>>>>>>>> [00002173] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>>>>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>>>>>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
>>>>>>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04
>>>>>>>>>> [00002182] 5d         pop ebp
>>>>>>>>>> [00002183] c3         ret
>>>>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *It is a basic fact that DDD emulated by HHH according to*
>>>>>>>>>> *the semantics of the x86 language cannot possibly stop*
>>>>>>>>>> *running unless aborted* (out of memory error excluded)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, anyone saying that the above is something that CAN be 
>>>>>>>>> correctly emulated by the semantics of the x86 language is just 
>>>>>>>>> a LIAR.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are inserting a word that I did not say.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To say that DDD is emulated by HHH means that it must be possible 
>>>>>>> to validly do that act.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are not going to get very far with any claim that
>>>>>> emulating a sequence of x86 machine-code bytes is impossible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you emulate dthe CALL HHH instruction without the code that 
>>>>> follows?
>>>>>
>>>>> Who is the silly one now?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No it has moved up to a ridiculous and utterly
>>>> baseless false assumption that is directly contradicted
>>>> by the verified fact that x86utm takes Halt7.obj as
>>>> its input data, thus having all of the machine code
>>>> of HHH directly available to DDD.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And thus, ALL of memory is the "input" and thus any change in it 
>>> renders that answer possibly different.
>>>
>>
>> There are no other words that can be added to my
>> words that change the immutable fact of my words.
>>
> 
> Which are just meaningless garbage and a LIE.
> 
> The DDD given can not be "emulated" by HHH, 

*just meaningless garbage and a LIE*

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