Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!news.space.net!news.muc.de!.POSTED.news.muc.de!not-for-mail
From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: Proof that DDD specifies non-halting behavior --- Mike correcting Joes and thus Fred too
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 18:02:12 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: muc.de e.V.
Message-ID: <v9qoj4$diq$1@news.muc.de>
References: <v9gv4k$4sc4$1@dont-email.me>   <XYucnXqdgeWiVSH7nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <b8a96bbfe0516cf99b6f38c23fb4eccc3810ee7e@i2pn2.org> <v9krc5$uqhs$1@dont-email.me> <v9l7hf$vao1$3@dont-email.me> <v9laed$113gd$2@dont-email.me> <EbecnaOe1ajC1yP7nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <v9llh9$12l6c$2@dont-email.me> <v9mt9h$1bdeu$3@dont-email.me> <P6-cnWf3Z5zzLyL7nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <v9oerj$1iiu2$1@dont-email.me> <3rKcnXwB7eKxUF37nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@brightview.co.uk>
Injection-Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 18:02:12 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: news.muc.de; posting-host="news.muc.de:2001:608:1000::2";
	logging-data="13914"; mail-complaints-to="news-admin@muc.de"
User-Agent: tin/2.6.3-20231224 ("Banff") (FreeBSD/14.1-RELEASE-p3 (amd64))
Bytes: 2922
Lines: 40

Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> wrote:
> On 16/08/2024 22:03, Jeff Barnett wrote:

> You're right about the "white night" thing.

To Mike and Jeff.  PLEASE, it's KNIGHT, not night.  ;-)  Nights tend not
to be white, even if there's a full moon.

[ .... ]

> For some time at the beginning I continued because I was curious about
> the details of what PO had coded (his x86utm program), and I just enjoy
> mucking about with different code hence my curiosity.  Also I have the
> white night syndrome I guess - but no illusions that I can help PO.
> Most of my early days on Usenet were spent on groups like
> alt.math.undergrad, where posters were typically students who were
> motivated to learn and so listened to what the regulars had to say.
> Compare that to sci.math which has almost no students, and instead has
> dozens of cranks whose aim is definitely /not/ to learn anything!

Actually, most of the cranks on sci.math posted via Google, and ceased
posting there after Google shut down their NNTP service (thankfully).  I
think there's just one left, one who figures in Joes's sig.

[ .... ]

> Mike.

>> Part of what I'm saying above is that all of us who participate in
>> this nonsense have some needs that fit in to the repetition. And those
>> needs not only fit in but also suck us all in. I really wish that
>> Underwood Dudley was still around to write another book exposing the
>> muddled psychology of those who are drawn to the flame of logical and
>> mathematical ideas without any real understanding.  Perhaps we should
>> label that whole batch as "Math Moths".

:-)

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).