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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.szaf.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!maths.tcd.ie!usenet.csail.mit.edu!.POSTED.hergotha.csail.mit.edu!not-for-mail From: wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Five Works Inspired by the Legend of Atlantis Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 18:10:33 -0000 (UTC) Organization: MIT Computer Science & Artificial Intelligence Lab Message-ID: <v9qp2p$23ui$1@usenet.csail.mit.edu> References: <v9nmlt$t7b$1@reader1.panix.com> <v9nsbs$1484$3@usenet.csail.mit.edu> <v9q6sr$1tjk4$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 18:10:33 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: usenet.csail.mit.edu; posting-host="hergotha.csail.mit.edu:207.180.169.34"; logging-data="69586"; mail-complaints-to="security@csail.mit.edu" X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Originator: wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Lines: 50 Bytes: 3755 In article <v9q6sr$1tjk4$1@dont-email.me>, Michael F. Stemper <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote: >On 16/08/2024 10.48, Garrett Wollman wrote: > >> The library I grew up in seemed to have had, at some point before I >> started going there, a librarian who considered all SF to be >> "juvenile". As a result, *all* of Norton's SF was still shelved in >> the YA section twenty years later. > >Interesting. Your library had a YA section? Mine only had a children's >section, and an adult section. The children's section had nursery rhymes >up through Freddy the Pig and Doctor Dolittle. There was a "children's library" which took up one floor of the old Carnegie building, and an "adult library" which was all of the new wing that opened in 1981. Inside the children's library there was an open area down the middle, leading to the librarians' desk and behind them the former main entrance (now an emergency exit). On the left side was what we'd now call "middle grades" and below, everything from picture books to Encyclopedia Brown, and on the right side was actually labeled "Young Adult", with big sectionos of packaged series (Hardy Boys, Three Investigators, etc.) and the rest either Dewey (for the non-fiction) or alpha by author (for the fiction). In the center aisle, in addition to the card catalogs, were display shelves of new books along with some children's reference books (encyclopedias, Something About the Author, dictionaries). It's been 40 years but I could walk in there tomorrow and point out nearly everything I've just mentioned -- except of course that everything has changed. My brain wants me to believe that Diane Duane and Robin McKinley were shelved in the same place, which obviously doesn't make sense alphabetically. I am not sure if more modern YA fantasy got its own subsection -- it was, after all, forty years ago. They don't seem to publish a map showing the current layout of the building, and it's a five-hour drive so I won't be making a detailed comparison. I forget at what point I was allowed to use the "adult library". It must have been some time in 5th or 6th grade because I remember doing a 6th-grade book report on the first volume of Asimov's autobiography, which I would have had to go to the adult side to read. I never read any of Asimov's juveniles; I'm pretty sure my gateway to Asimov was through his F&SF science essay collections. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | "Act to avoid constraining the future; if you can, wollman@bimajority.org| act to remove constraint from the future. This is Opinions not shared by| a thing you can do, are able to do, to do together." my employers. | - Graydon Saunders, _A Succession of Bad Days_ (2015)