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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: key error in all the proofs --- Correction of Fred Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 11:08:21 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 43 Message-ID: <v9sa5l$2am2o$1@dont-email.me> References: <v8jh7m$30k55$1@dont-email.me> <v9de0o$3cjse$1@dont-email.me> <v9dela$3cjse$2@dont-email.me> <b7c45ea22cb83908c31d909b67f4921156be52e3@i2pn2.org> <v9dgvl$3d1an$1@dont-email.me> <d289636b1d244acaf00108f46df093a9fd5aa27c@i2pn2.org> <v9dk2j$3dp9h$1@dont-email.me> <8318f5969aa3074e542747fe6ba2916d7f599bde@i2pn2.org> <TyKdnc3hCNvmUyf7nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <v9ekta$3necg$1@dont-email.me> <2f8c1b0943d03743fe9894937092bc2832e0a029@i2pn2.org> <v9fn50$3ta4u$2@dont-email.me> <v9hmfc$c71c$1@dont-email.me> <v9ic89$f16v$6@dont-email.me> <06ea0f3a1ff938643b3dfefdf62af15559593733@i2pn2.org> <v9iqgc$go4j$2@dont-email.me> <LcucnRYb5ZiYhyD7nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <v9j6ci$jo32$1@dont-email.me> <v9kdp9$srkm$1@dont-email.me> <v9ku3k$v95g$1@dont-email.me> <v9nbqr$1dmui$1@dont-email.me> <v9nf3o$1dvef$3@dont-email.me> <v9nkhd$1ertd$1@dont-email.me> <v9nmj5$1f34m$1@dont-email.me> <v9pgpc$1qm46$1@dont-email.me> <v9q9ak$1tedb$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 10:08:22 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4868edd3a7703f25a7649a27b4268f06"; logging-data="2447448"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+33Vebo+nWJOozv0W3lgRJ" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:R9WsAQuVQNy2sv/Vb2oR4RpdY7M= Bytes: 3033 On 2024-08-17 13:41:39 +0000, olcott said: > On 8/17/2024 1:42 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-08-16 14:09:40 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> On 8/16/2024 8:34 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>> On 2024-08-16 12:02:00 +0000, olcott said: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I must go one step at a time. >>>> >>>> That's reasonable in a discussion. The one thing you were discussing >>>> above is what is the meaning of the output of HHH. Its OK to stay >>>> at that step until we are sure it is understood. >>>> >>> >>> void DDD() >>> { >>> HHH(DDD); >>> return; >>> } >>> >>> Unless an unlimited emulation of DDD by HHH >>> can reach the "return" instruction of DDD it is >>> construed that this instance of DDD never halts. >> >> Whaatever you "construe" does not change the fact that DDD specifies >> a halting computation if HHH does. >> >>> For three years now at least most reviewers insisted >>> on disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language. >> >> If you claim that HHH halts and DDD doesn't you disagree with >> the semantics of both C and x86 languages. >> > > Please see my new post. Which new post? Message ID? Subject? Date and time? -- Mikko