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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Sync two clocks Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 15:05:19 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 37 Message-ID: <v9so1v$2cjta$1@dont-email.me> References: <u18wy1Hl3tOo1DpOF6WVSF0s-08@jntp> <v9nant$1d2us$1@dont-email.me> <vPP1Z1BJfE1Dt7SYhCzEo7ZQWFI@jntp> <v9pmsf$1rgi3$1@dont-email.me> <EadudY-_mtVd5Pzei90AAEM8Cqk@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 14:05:19 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="28cfdee9bade4b27347d5cedfd8f79e2"; logging-data="2510762"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/hU3o3nmOnG+ewxglxnWBv" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:fn/TpIaKvSJETuxIsUxs26nCK7o= Bytes: 2098 On 2024-08-17 08:56:06 +0000, Richard Hachel said: > Le 17/08/2024 à 10:26, Mikko a écrit : >> >>> FOR A: >>> tB-t1=2AB/c >>> t2-tB=0 >>> >>> FOR B: >>> tB-t1=0 >>> t2-tB=2AB/c >> >> t1, t2, tB, AB, c, and 0 are numbers. Numbers are the same for >> everyone, including A and B, and therefore the realtions between >> the numbers are the same, too. >> >> Mikko > > No, the numbers are not the same for everyone. Yes there are. 5 if five to everybody and seven to nobody. 15 m is 15 m to everybody and 12 to nobody. Perhaps some number is not known to everybody but that does not affect the number itself. > Let's take the case of the Langevin traveler, Vo=0.8c. D=2*12al. Note that you didn't specify for whom. They are the same for everybody. > This means that, for an observer on Earth, the duration of the journey, > which is a number, will be To=D/Vo. That number is the same for everyone. Pernhaps the duration in Earth frame is uniteresting or unknown to someone but that does not affect the number. -- Mikko