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From: Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Three Body Problem
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 13:47:36 -0500
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On 8/18/2024 11:19 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 13:42:46 -0500, Lynn McGuire
> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 8/17/2024 4:51 AM, D wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 16 Aug 2024, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/16/2024 4:55 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>>>>> Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/16/2024 1:26 PM, BCFD 36 wrote:
>>>>>>> Awhile back, The Three Body Problem was mentioned. In that thread,
>>>>>>> there was no mention of the current Netflix version. Was this
>>>>>>> mentioned somewhere else and I just missed it? Google groups is of
>>>>>>> no help any more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have just started the series and I am intrigued, so far. Just two
>>>>>>> episodes. My wife is rather "meh" about it, but she said the same
>>>>>>> thing about Star Trek 1 which in reality she HATED so I may be
>>>>>>> watching it after she goes to bed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave Scruggs
>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer - Lockheed Martin, et. al (mostly Retired)
>>>>>>> Captain - Boulder Creek Fire (Retired)
>>>>>>> Board of Directors - Boulder Creek Fire Protection District (What
>>>>>>> was I thinking?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did not like the Netflix version, have yet to read the book.  Too
>>>>>> much time spent on the China Cultural Revolution and their violence
>>>>>> against the educated.  Felt like a Children of the Corn mini
>>>>>> series.  I gave up after two episodes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've known several people whose lives were damaged by that event.
>>>>> And these were the lucky ones, who made it to the west.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One scientist I knew never got over it, especially the abuse suffered
>>>>> by her mother.  One might have expected her father, an educated man
>>>>> who had lived in the West and still had children living there to be
>>>>> as big a target. But he was left alone, she said, because he was a
>>>>> renowned gerontologist and  the Party leadership was getting older.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Another distinguished scientist told me he reached the last year of
>>>>> secondary education only to realize that he'd learned absolutely
>>>>> nothing owing to the constant meetings and demonstrations.  Ignoring
>>>>> his teachers, he packed four years of school into one.  Judging by
>>>>> his subsequent career, he kept up that level of effort for  the next
>>>>> few decades.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> William Hyde
>>>>
>>>> One of my Dad's mainland Chinese grad students from OU lived with us
>>>> for a couple of years from 1973 to 1974 and worked for my Dad from
>>>> 1973 to 1995. He came over to the USA in 1966 or 1967 and got a PhD in
>>>> Chemical Engineering from OU in 1973.  I heard enough stories from him
>>>> about growing on a farm in China, living in a cave, starving all the
>>>> time.  If our family did not eat everything at supper then he would
>>>> finish everything off.  It took my mother several months break him of
>>>> that habit.  But he never got fat.  He never mentioned anything about
>>>> the Cultural Revolution but I suspect it was the reason why he left
>>>> China.
>>>>
>>>> He was incredibly smart, he would give me an algorithm and I would
>>>> code it up in Fortran 66 for him in a subroutine and give him the card
>>>> deck. He was very submissive, he would never look you in the face,
>>>> would always look down.  He went back to mainland China in 1995 to
>>>> help with his sister's export business.  Sadly, he soon had a heart
>>>> attack and passed away.  His sister was kind enough to call my father
>>>> and tell us.
>>>>
>>>> I know several people in the USA who had to leave Iran when they had
>>>> their cultural revolution.  Mostly engineers working for USA companies
>>>> like Dupont in Iran.  I've gotten a few stories from them, grim, very
>>>> grim.  One of my classmates at TAMU disappeared at the midyear of our
>>>> junior year in 1980 when the Iranian Embassy in the USA sent him a
>>>> letter cutting off his funds and ordering him to come home.  They also
>>>> revoked his visa but President Reagan gave all those people green card
>>>> status in 1981.  He refused to go home to Iran since he was a nephew
>>>> of the Shah, he figured that they would shoot him the minute he
>>>> stepped off the plane.
>>>>
>>>> In other words, the various Cultural Revolutions are a little too real
>>>> for me and I do not enjoy reading about or viewing them.
>>>>
>>>> Lynn
>>>>
>>>
>>> With this historical luggage I can never understand how people in europe
>>> can insist on voting for socialists. Give them enough power and they
>>> tend to repeat themselves. Just look at the socialist UK government now
>>> cracking down on free speech. Very sad.
>>
>> Incredibly sad.  And the Democrat candidate here in the USA is talking
>> freezing food prices and making grocery stores report any changes in
>> their prices, causing huge paperwork and never ending bureaucracies.
> 
> The presumed Democratic candidate for President (she won't be the
> candidate until the convention chooses her) appears to be talking
> about artificially raising prices and keeping them raised far longer
> than the economic situation requires. And I don't want to see a quote
> from 5 years ago on the topic; people's ideas change over time.
> 
> I suspect you have happened on a Putin/Trump Talking Point and have
> swallowed it whole. Surely by now you realize that these things are
> useful only as projections onto the Dems of what Trump (and so the
> Republicans, as long as they do not disavow him and all his works and
> all his ways) would like to do. Which is fine in itself -- it's always
> helpful to know what the other guys are planning.

Please do not lie about me.  This Aug 16, 2024 speech by Kamala Harris 
on Price Fixing is on CNN:
  
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/16/business/harris-price-gouging-ban-inflation/index.html

"New York CNN  — Food prices have surged by more than 20% under the 
Biden-Harris administration, leaving many voters eager to stretch their 
dollars further at the grocery store."

"On Friday, Vice President Kamala Harris said she has a solution: a 
federal ban on price gouging across the food industry."

Lynn