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On 8/18/2024 1:56 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 8/18/2024 10:48 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>
>> On the other hand, the net effect of 'gun free zones' is 
>> to attract maniacs, where they are assured of no defense 
>> by victims. As in the NIU Valentines' Day affair, when a 
>> wacko shot up a classroom. A recently discharged soldier 
>> in that class died laying across his girlfriend ( who 
>> lived). His 9mm was, as the rules required, locked in his 
>> glovebox in the parking lot.
> 
> It's a really wild "Quick Draw McGraw" fantasy to pretend 
> that if that guy had his handgun on him, he would have 
> somehow stopped the shooter. The guy burst into an 
> auditorium and began shooting, getting off ~50 rounds within 
> a minute or two.
> 
> And I'll note that there are _plenty_ of mass shootings that 
> happen outside of gun free zones. Yet there are very, very 
> few reports of "good guys with guns" stopping the mayhem 
> before multiple people are injured or killed.
> 
> Based on what I read, the most common examples of someone 
> shooting back seem to happen in gang shootings connected to 
> gang wars. Those attempts certainly don't dissuade the 
> original attackers.
> 

You underestimate the value of armed civilians

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/indiana-mall-shooting-elisjsha-dicken-neutralized-gunman-15-seconds/

https://apnews.com/article/de8a2aebc6d95b9131a08975a5d881f9
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Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
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