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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: This makes all Analytic(Olcott) truth computable Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 11:54:59 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 50 Message-ID: <v9v193$2qc9v$1@dont-email.me> References: <v86olp$5km4$1@dont-email.me> <v8hv72$2mmsq$1@dont-email.me> <v8iisj$2qetj$1@dont-email.me> <v8kuhb$3d5q8$1@dont-email.me> <v8lc7p$3f6vr$2@dont-email.me> <v8naa8$3uo7s$1@dont-email.me> <v8nqo7$1n09$1@dont-email.me> <v8sm9o$1gk42$1@dont-email.me> <v8t2fl$1ilg6$2@dont-email.me> <v8v97m$2cofk$1@dont-email.me> <v8vusp$32fso$16@dont-email.me> <v91p95$3ppav$1@dont-email.me> <v92q4f$37e9$1@dont-email.me> <v94l1p$ldq7$1@dont-email.me> <v95c2j$p5rb$4@dont-email.me> <v95cke$p5rb$5@dont-email.me> <v977fo$gsru$1@dont-email.me> <v97goj$ielu$1@dont-email.me> <v9c93e$35sg6$1@dont-email.me> <v9d3k1$3ajip$1@dont-email.me> <v9ffpr$3s45o$1@dont-email.me> <v9fkd4$3se8c$1@dont-email.me> <v9kg66$tdvb$1@dont-email.me> <v9nbjf$1dj8q$1@dont-email.me> <20b1dea98eda49e74e822c96b37565bb3eb36013@i2pn2.org> <v9o4p2$1h5u4$1@dont-email.me> <cd12fb81fcd05d2e112fc8aca2f5b791c521cfc9@i2pn2.org> <v9oddf$1i745$2@dont-email.me> <v9shpn$2bno2$1@dont-email.me> <v9so84$2c67u$7@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 10:54:59 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8a85543d47eed3ccd77380f508dcb37e"; logging-data="2961727"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/AFBEHh/c9zutlG+O+3eQN" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:3ukWCwXNgVXH8J659rXCXnvSu2I= Bytes: 3716 On 2024-08-18 12:08:35 +0000, olcott said: > On 8/18/2024 5:18 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-08-16 20:39:11 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> On 8/16/2024 2:42 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 8/16/24 2:11 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> On 8/16/2024 11:32 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>> On 8/16/24 7:02 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *This abolishes the notion of undecidability* >>>>>>> As with all math and logic we have expressions of language >>>>>>> that are true on the basis of their meaning expressed >>>>>>> in this same language. Unless expression x has a connection >>>>>>> (through a sequence of true preserving operations) in system >>>>>>> F to its semantic meanings expressed in language L of F >>>>>>> x is simply untrue in F. >>>>>> >>>>>> But you clearly don't understand the meaning of "undecidability" >>>>> >>>>> Not at all. I am doing the same sort thing that ZFC >>>>> did to conquer Russell's Paradox. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> If you want to do that, you need to start at the basics are totally >>>> reformulate logic. >>>> >>> >>> ZFC didn't need to do that. All they had to do is >>> redefine the notion of a set so that it was no longer >>> incoherent. >> >> As the notion of set is the all what a set theory is about, >> a redefinition of the notion of a set is means Zermelo started >> from square one and built an entirely new formal system. >> > > The key functional difference was the result of few changes > and everything else stayed the same. Besides defeating RP > what was another functional result? The theory says that the universe of sets is infinite but does not say whether it is uncountable. Consequently there is a countable universe that can be proven to contain uncountable sets (and all their members because the theory says that all memebers are sets). -- Mikko