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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Anyone that disagrees with this is not telling the truth --- V3 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 06:54:16 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <v9vbp8$2rjt1$2@dont-email.me> References: <v9q52r$1tedb$1@dont-email.me> <v9sqo8$2c67u$19@dont-email.me> <v9usq3$2pnv2$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 13:54:17 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a406f5e7706e340b197dee4287cd04b3"; logging-data="3002273"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19wk+1oGUB8BpyzFg9Coqyy" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Q8PkjGDxK/y0Jf3skz3aM+uGHrw= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v9usq3$2pnv2$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2603 On 8/19/2024 2:38 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-08-18 12:51:20 +0000, olcott said: > >> On 8/17/2024 7:29 AM, olcott wrote: >>> void DDD() >>> { >>> HHH(DDD); >>> } >>> >>> _DDD() >>> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) >>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >>> [00002183] c3 ret >>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >>> >>> *It is a basic fact that DDD emulated by HHH according to* >>> *the semantics of the x86 language cannot possibly stop* >>> *running unless aborted* (out of memory error excluded) >>> >> >> *The essence of the above verbal claim is translated into logic* >> X = DDD emulated by HHH according to the semantics of the x86 language >> Y = HHH never aborts its emulation of DDD >> Z = DDD never stops running >> (X ∧ Y) ↔ Z >> >> x86utm takes the compiled Halt7.obj file of this c program >> https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/Halt7.c >> Thus making all of the code of HHH directly available to >> DDD and itself. HHH emulates itself emulating DDD. > > What was wrong in V2? > I appended a paragraph. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer