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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Doc O'Leary , <droleary.usenet@2023.impossiblystupid.com> Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: Using Diceware, BIP39 and leetspeak for Argon2id keys Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 15:19:17 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Subsume Technologies, Inc. Lines: 22 Message-ID: <v9vnpl$2tcji$1@dont-email.me> References: <fe80a8e31f3560eaa056f683595dcccfb8a8f8a7@i2pn2.org> <v9tb6n$2euft$6@dont-email.me> <e8fb2ca5aae1ccb493f7cd3a7c4ae00f9107de1d@i2pn2.org> <v9tf44$2fts4$1@dont-email.me> <3d9c7a0df306d40a9d5ef84acb50013bf405384c@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 17:19:17 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7154aea749479c4272036151f09e4e5f"; logging-data="3060338"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19cic9ycen1cbLWoUiPNxcvyYVUHOG5fUs=" User-Agent: com.subsume.NNTP/1.0.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:jZg+Ch2Ny08v4/ksmOlvbXktDxQ= Bytes: 2081 For your reference, records indicate that Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> wrote: > Well, what would you suggest then, as an example, some cool selfmade rhymes, > easy to remember or a self made peom etc., spiced up with special chars > between the words? One semi-clever thing I did for encoding locations as words: <https://www.impossiblystupid.com/node/227/?content=be-+-direction> was to allow the word list to be used flexibly to construct more “meaningful” phrases. > Eve can't know for sure what we can come up with in our minds, can she? The mind is a poor random number generator, though. That’s probably what makes it so bad at memorizing random *anything*. So the tools we need are ones that add meaning, and do so without reducing unpredictability. A tall order, to be sure. -- "Also . . . I can kill you with my brain." River Tam, Trash, Firefly