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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!border-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!border-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 01 May 2025 02:02:03 +0000 Subject: Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <pan$4068a$3910f4f1$8cbecede$9e42905e@linux.rocks> <20250428080014.0000347f@gmail.com> <m79tdsF2bf6U1@mid.individual.net> <20250428111242.00007426@gmail.com> <pan$c046d$e87ef491$a3427b7a$ac576dbc@linux.rocks> <slrn1011nu8.46v.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <vurjl9$2pskn$1@dont-email.me> <slrn1013t50.1aev.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> From: c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 22:02:01 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <slrn1013t50.1aev.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <vAGdnR-Fj9qGS4_1nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 31 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-GNuO0TDaHwMvho3ttG+qlHCpWLJBxBM9cnfQxzwzkWXZ9zXYevJ+QwwmpY597ZP84zEP0bQooPd8Lo3!Ttu+xeryqEOnCmaBUrYdUlqcvbdu83DiqsU4nPMPWPqhZZLvIKFmuU1L4cfJ9cNOTjgxegEtFH5h X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 On 4/30/25 6:00 AM, Borax Man wrote: > On 2025-04-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >> On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 14:18:48 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: >> >>> As for your file example though, you do demonstrate why one may choose >>> upper vs lower case, Windows does allow that. But should they be >>> *seperate* files? >> >> It should be your choice. >> > Well, you get to choose the filesystem you use. JFS2 if I recall could > be case insensitive, but i would play havoc with the OS if you used it > in the wron place. In Windows, can you make it case sensitive? > >>> However, I agree with your comment about unicode. Treating upper and >>> lower case letters as the same, leads to complicated rules, which may >>> vary from system to system, and cause chaos. >> >> Unicode seems to have come up with some standard set of “default” rules >> that are independent of any particular localization setting. > > These would need to be in a standard, one that filesystems can > implement. But then filesystems would have to implement the same > standard, otherwise, again issues arise. Can't see this being workable > for end users. So, in essence, the development of case-sensitive systems ruined it for case-insensitive :-) Same now for space-tolerant file names.