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On 5/2/24 02:14, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-04-26 22:53, bad sector wrote:
>> On 4/25/24 21:28, micky wrote:
>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 25 Apr 2024 07:00:53 -0400, bad?sector
>>> <forgetski@_INVALID.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/25/24 05:29, Nick Cine wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 09:47:17 +0100, Jeff Layman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> [*] or any other action such as lifting it up, or touching the 
>>>>>>> screen,
>>>>>>> or poking the fingerprint reader.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The lifting it up thing is interesting. I wonder if that's done 
>>>>>> with an
>>>>>> accelerometer? If so, it would be checking that too.
>>>>>
>>>>> A few more comments, but I don't know much about this topic.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Even if a phone is "off", when you plug in a charger, "something
>>>>>      happens", so is it really off? I don't know, but how does it 
>>>>> charge?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. The government has, in the past, secretly modified gangster's 
>>>>> phones
>>>>>      such that they looked to be off, but were secretly still 
>>>>> transmitting.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. The iPhone, I believe, is never off, which, I'm told, is how the 
>>>>> FindMy
>>>>>      sensing works for stolen phones.
>>>>>
>>>>> How does any of that work? I don't know.
>>>>
>>>> For one thing the battery should be removable with one hand,
>>>> blindfolded, in 3 seconds or less.
>>>
>>> Wyatt Earp could do that but I can't.
>>
>> Regulations require it for oxygen masks, if enough people demand it 
>> the same lawmakers can just as easily require it for cell phones as well.
> 
> The EU is planning to regulate user replaceable batteries in phones and 
> other devices. No mention of doing it "with one hand, blindfolded, in 3 
> seconds or less", though.


I don't think they know what it means :-)

Seriously, they're way ahead of us in handling foxes in chicken-coops! I 
say if a camera can have an easily ejectable battery then so can a 
phone. period.