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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Python (was Re: I did not inhale) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 23:03:46 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: <va0j0i$3267t$1@dont-email.me> References: <uu54la$3su5b$6@dont-email.me> <20240408075547.000061e8@gmail.com> <g52cnWOOwoz_son7nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <uvbe3m$2cun7$1@dont-email.me> <uvbfii$3mom0$1@news.xmission.com> <20240412094809.811@kylheku.com> <87il0mm94y.fsf@tudado.org> <way-20240413091747@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <87il0lldf8.fsf@tudado.org> <choices-20240413123957@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <v9lm2k$12qhv$1@dont-email.me> <v9m4gd$14scu$1@dont-email.me> <20240815182717.189@kylheku.com> <v9npls$1fjus$1@dont-email.me> <v9posc$1rpdj$1@dont-email.me> <v9pvoo$1sn55$1@dont-email.me> <v9r60h$2289h$2@dont-email.me> <v9sa91$2afht$1@dont-email.me> <v9tv8o$2iahp$1@dont-email.me> <v9uso3$2pdrg$2@dont-email.me> <v9v0n6$2q8h3$1@dont-email.me> <v9v8pr$2r6q2$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 01:03:47 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e67b5fd56ab8be94cd7ba99433918e9e"; logging-data="3217661"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19kExDrDa0qUBncgK5swioX" User-Agent: Pan/0.159 (Vovchansk; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:u75w7dlcxHOTRVOwuREjitJH91s= Bytes: 3134 On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 13:03:23 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > Well, handheld gaming to gaming is like masturbation to love. Sorry... > >> Microsoft has been talking about bringing out a >> Windows “Handheld Mode” for about two years now, but still has nothing >> to ship. So what do you think Microsoft has been doing with its hands all that time? ;) > On 2024-08-19 10:45, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 09:37:39 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >> >>> On 2024-08-19 01:14, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, 18 Aug 2024 10:10:09 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >>>> >>>>> Windows has a pipe object named and anonymous. No problem. >>>> >>>> One problem: you can’t use them with poll/select calls. >>> >>> You can. See overlapped I/O. >> >> I said “poll/select calls”. Do you not know what those are? On Windows, >> they work with sockets, but not with pipes. Or even ordinary files. So >> unlike *nix systems, you have to keep in mind the different kinds of >> files you might be working with. > > Again. It is called overlapped I/O. You can start multiple > *asynchronous* I/O operations from a thread. I’m not talking about using threads. I’m talking about avoiding threads, and all their potential for difficult-to-fix race-condition-type bugs. I’m talking about situations where the bottleneck is the I/O, not the CPU, so multithreading gets you nothing.