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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Python <python@invalid.org> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Sync two clocks Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 14:01:26 +0200 Organization: CCCP Lines: 41 Message-ID: <va20im$3c12c$1@dont-email.me> References: <u18wy1Hl3tOo1DpOF6WVSF0s-08@jntp> <v9nant$1d2us$1@dont-email.me> <vPP1Z1BJfE1Dt7SYhCzEo7ZQWFI@jntp> <va0a4f$30p95$1@dont-email.me> <Zwwc8OsxqpAwTzvPkie6NmgxmY8@jntp> <va1tp9$3c0qh$1@dont-email.me> <aeuL_3xao9-_kSf51ssMUTgW-s8@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 14:01:27 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e7766270ddb83778ad61a74e624af08e"; logging-data="3540044"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18YpPpbXFy5uGDA2mVE9Ztz" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:bzq+TiZ/DtFNoMgUq2yiITyFlAs= In-Reply-To: <aeuL_3xao9-_kSf51ssMUTgW-s8@jntp> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3159 Le 20/08/2024 à 13:27, M.D. Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit : > Le 20/08/2024 à 13:13, Mikko a écrit : >>> >>> I have explained these things a hundred times. >>> It is impossible to synchronize two watches A and B located in >>> different places. >> >> So you agree that Paul B. Andersen's prodedure is doable and achieves >> what you call "impssible". > > You have to understand the words and concepts, and in relativistic > theory, this is very poorly done. There is no theory in the world that > is so poorly explained, and the fact that some people think they > understand it, when they only possibly understand how to do the > equations (and again, I am amazed at the enormous errors made on proper > times and instantaneous observable speeds in accelerated frames of > reference, the misunderstandings in Langevin in apparent speeds and the > madness of rotating frames of reference) does not really help the > dissemination of a theory that is both beautiful and true, which I have > been trying to do (under idiotic laughter) for 40 years, with, > nevertheless, some great personal successes. > > As for Paul's or Python's synchronization procedure, I'm not saying it's > wrong, or useless. On the contrary, it's very useful for giving a > coherent and practicable universal time. > It's just that it's only true for an imaginary, abstract observer, who, > placed far away and in an ideal fourth dimension, synchronizes the > entire universe on itself, with the particularity, for him, of > considering that all movements can ONLY be transversal, including the > movements of information which then take the value c in all directions. > What I mean is that two watches set according to this procedure each > advance on the other by an artificial and false value which is AB/c. This means that your synchronization criteria is broken. That's all. While Einstein-Poincaré's criteria is NOT broken. End Of Story.